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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby North » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:25 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh how I hope D-TTT-ean Alexander checks this thread every now and then. I hope the dude knows we're still mocking him well over a year later.

Edit: To throw some TTTTTs into "Dean." Can't let the honorific look like it actually denotes some sort of honor.
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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby ManoftheHour » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:45 pm

North wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh how I hope Dean Alexander checks this thread every now and then. I hope the dude knows we're still mocking him well over a year later.


All I can say is:

pond


cummings





LOL


Why is his name always lower cased?! Too cool for capitalization?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby ManoftheHour » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:51 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:I am not exaggerating when I say that I would not hire someone who submitted a resume with four uncapitalized names at my local grocery store, much less at fucking Kirkland and Ellis.

I suppose the nicest thing I could say about andre douglas pond cummings is that I literally could not troll Indiana Tech better than that. If I were making someone up to exaggerate how terrible their faculty would be for comedic effect, I'd say to myself, "I'll give him a law degree and an undergrad degree from the two most different places I can possibly think of, the both of which someone couldn't possibly be an alumnus. How about he gets his undergrad degree at BYU and then goes to Howard? I'll make him sound like he's in that kind of 'definitely white but with legit black credentials' thing going on, like Eminem or Jason Kidd. And then I'll have him be an expert at something a BYU student would think a Howard law student studies. I've got it--he'll be a hip-hop professor! And I'll give him some experience at a good firm like Kirkland and Ellis just to add some WTF to the whole thing--it'll let everyone assume some recruiter got lazy during the boom years and just hired him sight unseen because he assumed a Howard grad named andre douglas pond cummings was the last guy to fill their diversity quota for the year. And just for the fuck of it, he won't capitalize any of his names! Ha ha, this is going to be so funny! Everyone is going to quickly realize this is a joke and couldn't possibly be an accurate description of a real person!"

The CV of andre douglas pond cummings also contains the following interesting tidbits:

-ADPC's law review articles are actually titled with hip-hop quotes, making for interestingly-titled articles like “Never Let Me Slip ‘Cause If I Slip Then I’m Slippin’’”: California’s Paranoid Slide From Bakke to Proposition 209"
-ADPC is a board member of Shortfuze Records.
-ADPC has experience at the Pro Surf and Volleyball Championships.
-ADPC would do anything for love, but he won't do that.

I only made one of those up.


Went back to see if anyone answered my question.

This is the funniest shit ever. I can't believe it's real. Went to BYU for UG and then Howard for law school? Wtf...

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:29 pm

slackademic wrote:
PepperJack wrote:I wish I could read her exam.

The dephendint was uncool when he did that. He has issues. It reminds me of this 1 time when I was like to my gurl Jenny, "Yo J what you doin'", and she was like chill. In closing, plaintain has beef.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

I was not making fun of a particular demographic or race of student, only the type of student who would get a score low enough for Indiana Tech and decide to attend. However, given the race of the particular individual I was making fun of I should not have made fun of their intelligence because of the misconception that would lead to. I apologize if I offended anyone.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby ManoftheHour » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:00 pm

PepperJack wrote:
slackademic wrote:
PepperJack wrote:I wish I could read her exam.

The dephendint was uncool when he did that. He has issues. It reminds me of this 1 time when I was like to my gurl Jenny, "Yo J what you doin'", and she was like chill. In closing, plaintain has beef.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

I was not making fun of a particular demographic or race of student, only the type of student who would get a score low enough for Indiana Tech and decide to attend. However, given the race of the particular individual I was making fun of I should not have made fun of their intelligence because of the misconception that would lead to. I apologize if I offended anyone.


I didn't see it as racially offensive. I've heard people of African, Hispanic, Asian, and Caucasian descent speak like that. The common denominator isn't race, it's social economic status.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:04 pm

Obviously some people did because I got banned. In the future, it may make sense just to make fun of the white students at these schools to be safe. Socioeconomic status, I'm unsure about. I was actually just making fun of the logic skills of the people going to schools with 1% employment rates. I think a lot of the problem is the social support that people get for going to law school. The girl is like I'm going to be a lawyer by going to Indiana Tech, and her friends are all like, "You can do anything." There's no "You can do anything as long as..." Our society is too big on titles, too little on contents and this is why so many people get screwed.

Is there any link between low ranked law schools, and impoverished students? Within a given city, I have noticed a big difference in how people talk, but not that the TTTT is mostly poor and the T is mostly rich.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby buddyt » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:21 pm

PepperJack wrote:In the future, it may make sense just to make fun of the white students at these schools to be safe.

:?:

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:27 pm

buddyt wrote:
PepperJack wrote:In the future, it may make sense just to make fun of the white students at these schools to be safe.

:?:

I got banned for not making my post white specific so in the future if one is poking fun at the logic of people attending law school with sub-150 scores it is more sensible to only make fun of white students who attend school with sub-150 scores, because otherwise it may be misinterpreted as racism.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby BigZuck » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:31 pm

You're going to get banned again my bro.

And if you keep it up you're probably going to get the thread locked as well. Although it feels like that is coming no matter what.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jingosaur » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:34 pm

I'm pretty sure the only reason why it's not locked already is because it played a not insignificant role in Indiana Tech's inaugrual class being over 70% smaller than Dean Alexander's target. And the first 6 or 7 pages of this thread are some of the best on TLS.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:37 pm

jingosaur wrote:I'm pretty sure the only reason why it's not locked already is because it played a not insignificant role in Indiana Tech's inaugrual class being over 70% smaller than Dean Alexander's target. And the first 6 or 7 pages of this thread are some of the best on TLS.

Is this actually true, though? Why would only this thread be effective while the TTTT threads are generally ineffective? Maybe it's because even the special snowflakes aren't that likely to change states, and Indiana already has enough law schools to service nearly everyone looking to go to school in Indiana?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jingosaur » Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:45 pm

PepperJack wrote:
jingosaur wrote:I'm pretty sure the only reason why it's not locked already is because it played a not insignificant role in Indiana Tech's inaugrual class being over 70% smaller than Dean Alexander's target. And the first 6 or 7 pages of this thread are some of the best on TLS.

Is this actually true, though? Why would only this thread be effective while the TTTT threads are generally ineffective? Maybe it's because even the special snowflakes aren't that likely to change states, and Indiana already has enough law schools to service nearly everyone looking to go to school in Indiana?


During the last cycle, this thread was the second result if you Googled "Indiana Tech Law School". Also, there are comments by the Dean himself and Paul Campos simply leveled him with some strong counter-comments. Most of the Choosing a Law School TTTT threads are just a troll posting something followed by 2 pages or so of 0Ls saying no, which isn't as persuasive and the threads don't have such a high rating in Google so people don't find them as easily.

I'm sure Indiana Tech would have missed 100 students no matter what. Valpo's LSAT median is down to 143 so it's not like there is a wealth of strong Indiana applicants.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:26 pm

jingosaur wrote:
PepperJack wrote:
jingosaur wrote:I'm pretty sure the only reason why it's not locked already is because it played a not insignificant role in Indiana Tech's inaugrual class being over 70% smaller than Dean Alexander's target. And the first 6 or 7 pages of this thread are some of the best on TLS.

Is this actually true, though? Why would only this thread be effective while the TTTT threads are generally ineffective? Maybe it's because even the special snowflakes aren't that likely to change states, and Indiana already has enough law schools to service nearly everyone looking to go to school in Indiana?


During the last cycle, this thread was the second result if you Googled "Indiana Tech Law School". Also, there are comments by the Dean himself and Paul Campos simply leveled him with some strong counter-comments. Most of the Choosing a Law School TTTT threads are just a troll posting something followed by 2 pages or so of 0Ls saying no, which isn't as persuasive and the threads don't have such a high rating in Google so people don't find them as easily.

I'm sure Indiana Tech would have missed 100 students no matter what. Valpo's LSAT median is down to 143 so it's not like there is a wealth of strong Indiana applicants.

I think you're overestimating how many trolls there are. Why would it be funny to say 2.8/142 as opposed to the car windshield thing? Clearly, there are people going to these schools. There is a real mentality many TTTT people have that because the LSAT isn't actually legal questions, they will be able to just ace law exams without studying that hard, transfer or beat the #'s. We live in a society that preaches believing one can do anything more than it preaches the basic economic principle that the best predictor of future performance is past performance.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby timbs4339 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:57 pm

PepperJack wrote: the basic economic principle that the best predictor of future performance is past performance.


lol @ this. Random walk bro.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby Rahviveh » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:09 pm

Proud to have posted in this classic thread.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:55 pm

PepperJack wrote:
buddyt wrote:
PepperJack wrote:In the future, it may make sense just to make fun of the white students at these schools to be safe.

:?:

I got banned for not making my post white specific so in the future if one is poking fun at the logic of people attending law school with sub-150 scores it is more sensible to only make fun of white students who attend school with sub-150 scores, because otherwise it may be misinterpreted as racism.

No, you got banned for using racially stereotypical language. That's not the same as not making your post "white specific," whatever on earth that's supposed to mean.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby TigerDude » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:29 am

Pepperjack, how about just stop while you aren't too far behind

It was offensive as hell. Learn from it .

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby PepperJack » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:18 pm

BigZuck wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
Louis1127 wrote:There are evil people in this world (not joking one bit). Regardless of our religious beliefs, it's undeniable that evil forces exist in our world.

Enjoy dat huge salary, Pete.


The worst thing is is that there's a decent chance that Peter Alexander isn't evil, just super ignorant. He comes off as the typical boomer who never bothered to look at the modern hiring market, and has no idea how much harder it will be for grads today than it was for him.


That's gross negligence dawg. He needs to think about that stuff before leading lambs to the slaughter.

Definitely got some comparative negligence up in here too though.

Let's be honest - it's not that hard for him to sleep at night. He's thinking, these are students who don't really have other options. We're not talking people out of Columbia to come to Indiana Tech. We're talking people out of Valpo or University of Puerto Rico. Maybe these people shouldn't be attending law school in general, but if they're choosing to, why can't I be the one to make money? I believe that I can give them as good of an education as these other places.

What are these students really giving up to come here? Our median GPA is barely a 3.0. We're getting people below the curve at their colleges who likely wouldn't get a great job, and many sub-140 LSAT scores so our students either aren't that smart or academically motivated. The majority who can't repay their loan will screw their credit, but in the end the taxpayer will pay for them. Maybe 1% will be able to get a job as a lawyer, and through our ethics seminar help 1 person that other law grads wouldn't help. That is at least 1 person helped, and I make a lot of money. Sure, most will never actually practice law, but will most Kaplan University graduates ever get a non-menial job? How am I so different?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:10 pm

TigerDude wrote:Pepperjack, how about just stop while you aren't too far behind

It was offensive as hell. Learn from it .


I don't want to play backseat mod, especially since I think Nony Mouse does a great job, but I didn't think it was "offensive as hell." A little iffy, maybe, but it was hardly a Klan rally. When I first read it, I thought it was more of a stereotyping of a stupid person in general, not a stupid person of a particular race. I don't want to get all "REVERSE RACISMS!!!!111" but I also wonder how offended we'd all be if it was a white guy and the joke was, "Hot damn, eye cain't wait to git me dat lawyerin' job with all this here book lurhnin' from Indiana Tech! Ooo-weee!"

Plus, plaintiff as plantain made me LOL.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby ManoftheHour » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:12 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:plaintiff as plantain made me LOL.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:44 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
TigerDude wrote:Pepperjack, how about just stop while you aren't too far behind

It was offensive as hell. Learn from it .


I don't want to play backseat mod, especially since I think Nony Mouse does a great job, but I didn't think it was "offensive as hell." A little iffy, maybe, but it was hardly a Klan rally. When I first read it, I thought it was more of a stereotyping of a stupid person in general, not a stupid person of a particular race. I don't want to get all "REVERSE RACISMS!!!!111" but I also wonder how offended we'd all be if it was a white guy and the joke was, "Hot damn, eye cain't wait to git me dat lawyerin' job with all this here book lurhnin' from Indiana Tech! Ooo-weee!"

Plus, plaintiff as plantain made me LOL.

There's certainly an argument to be made about whether certain language patterns reflect race or social class or education or what, but given that we had the woman's FB posted which made her race clear, and that someone reported the post as offensive, better to err on the side of caution.

And it wasn't my ban, but that's the logic behind it.

Beyond that, ask in the Mod Q&A thread, lest this thread's sacred purpose of trashing Indiana Tech get derailed.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:05 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
TigerDude wrote:Pepperjack, how about just stop while you aren't too far behind

It was offensive as hell. Learn from it .


I don't want to play backseat mod, especially since I think Nony Mouse does a great job, but I didn't think it was "offensive as hell." A little iffy, maybe, but it was hardly a Klan rally. When I first read it, I thought it was more of a stereotyping of a stupid person in general, not a stupid person of a particular race. I don't want to get all "REVERSE RACISMS!!!!111" but I also wonder how offended we'd all be if it was a white guy and the joke was, "Hot damn, eye cain't wait to git me dat lawyerin' job with all this here book lurhnin' from Indiana Tech! Ooo-weee!"

Plus, plaintiff as plantain made me LOL.

There's certainly an argument to be made about whether certain language patterns reflect race or social class or education or what, but given that we had the woman's FB posted which made her race clear, and that someone reported the post as offensive, better to err on the side of caution.

And it wasn't my ban, but that's the logic behind it.

Beyond that, ask in the Mod Q&A thread, lest this thread's sacred purpose of trashing Indiana Tech get derailed.


This thread should be protected as a valuable public service if that is possible.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jumpingjack » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:15 am

jingosaur wrote:
PepperJack wrote:
jingosaur wrote:I'm pretty sure the only reason why it's not locked already is because it played a not insignificant role in Indiana Tech's inaugrual class being over 70% smaller than Dean Alexander's target. And the first 6 or 7 pages of this thread are some of the best on TLS.

Is this actually true, though? Why would only this thread be effective while the TTTT threads are generally ineffective? Maybe it's because even the special snowflakes aren't that likely to change states, and Indiana already has enough law schools to service nearly everyone looking to go to school in Indiana?


During the last cycle, this thread was the second result if you Googled "Indiana Tech Law School". Also, there are comments by the Dean himself and Paul Campos simply leveled him with some strong counter-comments. Most of the Choosing a Law School TTTT threads are just a troll posting something followed by 2 pages or so of 0Ls saying no, which isn't as persuasive and the threads don't have such a high rating in Google so people don't find them as easily.

I'm sure Indiana Tech would have missed 100 students no matter what. Valpo's LSAT median is down to 143 so it's not like there is a wealth of strong Indiana applicants.

Hey, where did you get the 143 number? I can only find the LSAC info for this year, which states the LSAT median from LAST year's class rather than this year's one.

Edit: Never mind, I found it on Valparaiso's website for their 509 disclosure. Not only is the new median 143, but almost half of those kids are on scholarships. Lol!
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