Indiana Tech Law School

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jingosaur » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:33 am

timbs4339 wrote:
sunynp wrote:
If you had done any research into the benefits your grads will be getting in terms of employment, you would be ashamed to open this school.


Oh they did "research" all right

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby rwhyAn » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:42 am

I wonder how many of the 22 committed will actually enroll at The Indiana Tech Law School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too. Hey, at least their student-to-teacher ratio will be tops in the nation with more faculty than students.

http://www.fwbusiness.com/news/latest/businessweekly/article_1b94188f-0825-52e2-8c1c-21ef647f9cf6.html

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:46 am

rwhyAn wrote:I wonder how many of the 22 committed will actually enroll at The Indiana Tech Law School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too. Hey, at least their student-to-teacher ratio will be tops in the nation with more faculty than students.

http://www.fwbusiness.com/news/latest/businessweekly/article_1b94188f-0825-52e2-8c1c-21ef647f9cf6.html


Only 22 freshmen? This contradicts the earlier report that said they had 30 freshmen.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby rwhyAn » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:57 am

BigZuck wrote:
rwhyAn wrote:I wonder how many of the 22 committed will actually enroll at The Indiana Tech Law School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too. Hey, at least their student-to-teacher ratio will be tops in the nation with more faculty than students.

http://www.fwbusiness.com/news/latest/businessweekly/article_1b94188f-0825-52e2-8c1c-21ef647f9cf6.html


Only 22 freshmen? This contradicts the earlier report that said they had 30 freshmen.


They say they are "expecting" a class of 30, but only 22 students suckers have paid seat deposits so far.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:33 am

BigZuck wrote:22 freshmen


BigZuck wrote:freshmen


BigZuck wrote:freshmen

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:03 pm

BigZuck wrote:
BigZuck wrote:22 freshmen


BigZuck wrote:freshmen


BigZuck wrote:freshmen


Yea dude, read the fine print. They're using the 4-year model to increase tuition revenue

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby timbs4339 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:04 pm

They have a nice building, I don't think they could just up and close the school without finding another use for it.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:20 pm

timbs4339 wrote:They have a nice building, I don't think they could just up and close the school without finding another use for it.

Yeah, but they aren't going to pay staff and profs and admins from the rest of the school's funds. They're going to be bleeding dough. I, for one, am thrilled to see it.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:21 pm

O/U on years in existence 3. Where does the smart TLS money go?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:24 pm

I can't imagine this school has any kind of admissions standards, so I'm sure there weren't many people being denied. Anyone know how many people even applied?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby buddyt » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:34 pm

romothesavior wrote:Yeah, but they aren't going to pay staff and profs and admins from the rest of the school's funds. They're going to be bleeding dough. I, for one, am thrilled to see it.

I get legit giddy thinking about the empty classrooms, the professors that won't be needed, the panic attacks that must be sweeping the entire faculty...

But didn't UCI only have 50-something in its first class as well?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:36 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:I can't imagine this school has any kind of admissions standards, so I'm sure there weren't many people being denied. Anyone know how many people even applied?


I'm guessing once most potential applicants realized they were just going to be freshman all over again and not first year law students they didn't bother applying.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby Cicero76 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:36 pm

22? Is that a joke? Look on the bright side: there's no way they can section stack.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby danquayle » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:37 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:I can't imagine this school has any kind of admissions standards, so I'm sure there weren't many people being denied. Anyone know how many people even applied?


I'm guessing once most potential applicants realized they were just going to be freshman all over again and not first year law students they didn't bother applying.


You guys are all gonna feel awful stupid when they post a class profile with 172/3.8 medians.


It's telling that on the law school's website, the employment tab links not to expected employment opportunities for students, but rather to jobs at the school. Really tells you where their heads are.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby Cicero76 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:54 pm

goldbh7 wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:
sunynp wrote:
If you had done any research into the benefits your grads will be getting in terms of employment, you would be ashamed to open this school.


Oh they did "research" all right

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So I skimmed through that

Feasibility Report pg. 5 wrote:Today a useful model for visualizing the relative need for lawyers over time can be created by dividing the number of lawyers into our gross domestic product (GDP) and charting the results.


What in the fucking fuck what the fuck?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jingosaur » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:15 pm

I also glanced throught it. They also frequently cite lawyers per capita as a good metric since Indiana is like 44th or something. Washington DC has 1 lawyer for every 12 people. I thought that was absolutely insane.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby NYstate » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:23 pm

That pompous dean deserves all this and more for not listening to us, and being offended for the attacks on his credibility.

We told him the change had come and he was behind the times.

But would he listen? No.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby zman » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:04 pm

buddyt wrote:
romothesavior wrote:Yeah, but they aren't going to pay staff and profs and admins from the rest of the school's funds. They're going to be bleeding dough. I, for one, am thrilled to see it.

I get legit giddy thinking about the empty classrooms, the professors that won't be needed, the panic attacks that must be sweeping the entire faculty...

But didn't UCI only have 50-something in its first class as well?


yeah but they got 20 million dollars from a billionare and a lot of money from other donors and I assume they got a little bit of state money since UCI is a public school.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby jingosaur » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:19 pm

rwhyAn wrote:I wonder how many of the 22 committed will actually enroll at The Indiana Tech Law School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too. Hey, at least their student-to-teacher ratio will be tops in the nation with more faculty than students.

http://www.fwbusiness.com/news/latest/businessweekly/article_1b94188f-0825-52e2-8c1c-21ef647f9cf6.html


I like to think that this thread saved 78 kids from going to Indiana Tech Law School.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby paranoia4ya » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:40 pm

there are two likely possibilities for the school:
either they tried to admit 11 students who were at their projected medians, and that is why their class is so small or:
people are smarter than the dean gives them credit for.
either way, being in a building for 350 people with only 21 classmates would be sad..

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby sublime » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:08 am

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby Ti Malice » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:40 pm

sublime wrote:Irvine had a ton of money (they offered full rides to the entire first class), great facilities, a "superstar professor" as a dean, and is well respected academically in other fields, which certainly helps. These are all things Indiana Tech does not have.


Man, you're pretty uninformed.

Indiana Tech's law building is new and state-of-the-art. With 70,000 square feet for only 22 entering students (almost 3,200 square feet per capita), the school will no doubt begin its existence among elite company in the Cooley law school rankings.

Furthermore, renowned scholar of hip hop law andré douglas pond cummings is a dean at Tech. Ergo, Tech has a superstar professor -- with four uncapitalized names -- as a dean. Feel free to visit this website for confirmation:

andré douglas pond cummings wrote:Welcome to the official website of Professor andré douglas pond cummings. Within, you will find links and connections to all of the activities engaged by this dynamic scholar. This greetings/introduction page will serve to showcase the latest insights and work of Professor cummings as he seeks to challenge the status quo and work toward equality and social justice. According to renowned public intellectual Dr. Cornel West, Professor cummings scholarly "reputation goes far beyond . . . the nation, and is heard in every corner of the globe, wrestling with legacies of legal thinking on one hand and popular culture on the other."


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Some excerpts from the works of this renowned scholar:

andré douglas pond cummings, Thug Life: Hip-Hop’s Curious Relationship with Criminal Justice, 50 Santa Clara L. Rev. 515, 525 (2010) wrote:"At bottom, as hip hop has become the voice of a generation, and recognizing the sizeable global footprint that hip hop has created, two things seem clear: first, as the hip hop generation grows up, some of its members will become future leaders, including legislators, educators, lawyers, scholars and philosophers; and second, these leaders and educators will bring with them into their leadership roles the images, lessons and stark critiques that accompany all authentic members of this generation. As hip hop is truly impacting an emerging generation of leaders and scholars, then society should pay very close attention to the messages and lessons that hip hop has taught and continues to teach its generation."

andré douglas pond cummings, A Furious Kinship: Critical Race Theory and the Hip Hop Nation, 48 U. Louisville Law Rev. 499 (2010) wrote:"Richard Delgado shares a potent kinship with Ice Cube and the 'dangerous' hip-hop group N.W.A. When Professor Delgado published The Imperial Scholar, its impact was a literary shot across the bow of the traditional legal academy in its aggressive repudiation of entrenched white male civil rights legal scholarship. Like a hand grenade launched into the upper reaches of the ivory tower, Delgado authored a fiery critique that condemned famed civil rights scholars for their own racism and failure to garner, appreciate, or represent the views of the very oppressed minority groups on whose behalf these scholars purported to advocate.”

“Kimberlé Crenshaw and Queen Latifah, both powerful African American women, descended upon the legal academy and the hip-hop community like bolts of lightning—intense, powerful, and fierce.”

“Professor Neil Gotanda and hip-hop superstar Tupac Shakur share a genuine kinship wherein both men released enormously important and groundbreaking pieces in the 1990s....Professor Gotanda and Tupac are best situated in similarity as eloquent flamethrowers. The flames of CRT and hip hop had been lighted, imaginations across the world had been sparked, and Gotanda and Tupac fueled their respective movements by seizing their genres and delivering astonishing messages to the primed masses.”

“Just as Professor Butler seems poised to accept the torch from Derrick Bell and other CRT pioneers, Talib Kweli appears to have accepted the socially conscious hip-hop torch from socially conscious hip-hop pioneers Chuck D and KRS-One.”

“Just as Professor Carbado seems poised to share the torch with Professors Gotanda, Delgado, Harris, and other CRT pioneers, hip-hop superstar Common appears to have accepted the socially conscious hip-hop torch from Ice Cube and Tupac Shakur. Pushing forward a progressive political message for the next generation of hip-hop aficionados, Professor Carbado, as a next-generation CRT scholar, shares much with Common.”

"As Professor Perry stands ready to accept the torch from Kimberlé Crenshaw and other notable female CRT founders, hip-hop icon Lauryn Hill burst upon the twenty-first century hip-hop scene full of political and social relevance."

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby nucky thompson » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:21 pm

"Peter C. Alexander has been hired as the founding dean of the university's law school. Curriculum details and admissions requirements are in development, while specialties under consideration include leadership, international law, and intellectual property law." - front Page Indiana tech website

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby romothesavior » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:34 pm

nucky thompson wrote:"Peter C. Alexander has been hired as the founding dean of the university's law school. Curriculum details and admissions requirements are in development, while specialties under consideration include leadership, international law, and intellectual property law." - front Page Indiana tech website

This guy is the dean of academics or something.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Postby TheThriller » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:53 pm

jesus christ the music on his website.

According to his CV:

EDUCATION
Howard University School of Law, Washington, D.C. J.D., cum laude, May 1997

Brigham Young University, Provo, UT B.S., Sociology, April 1994 Honors:


White Mormon kid goes to historically black law school. Comes out a scholar on the legalities of hip-hop.




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