What's the word on UCI?

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What's the word on UCI?

Postby defdef » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:56 am

Are there any solid employment figures yet? LST doesn't seem to have data.

Any anecdotal evidence? I know they had 11 clerkships from their first graduating class, but I don't really know how much that says.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby ndirish2010 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:18 am

How big is their class? That clerkship number is actually fairly surprising given that they have no alumni on the federal bench.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby defdef » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:28 am

11/58 apparently got federal clerkships (3 others got state clerkships is what i understand from the articles i've read). the rankings went, Yale > Stanford > UCI > Harvard

not bad obviously, but old news and probably was due to heavy efforts on the school's part considering it was the first class. this seems like it was definitely the school to attend in 2009 if you had PI leanings considering the huge scholarships it gave.

now that the cost is relatively HUGE i wonder what the deal is

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby BoGuaGua » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:22 pm

class size is about 60-80-90-120 for the past four years

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby dingbat » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 pm

Buyer beware

Past performance is no indication of future results

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby TheThriller » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:27 pm

Anyone know when are included in the USNWR rankings?

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby dingbat » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:12 pm

TheThriller wrote:Anyone know when are included in the USNWR rankings?

Not until they're accredited.
2014?

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby TheThriller » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:49 pm

dingbat wrote:
TheThriller wrote:Anyone know when are included in the USNWR rankings?

Not until they're accredited.
2014?


I thought it was 2013? If it's accredited this year would they be folded into this years rankings? And when do those rankings come out?

Moral of the story is, I wouldn't touch UCI until they are officially accredited and in the rankings. Also the lack of LS alumni makes it all the more troubling.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby 071816 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:51 pm

TheThriller wrote:
dingbat wrote:
TheThriller wrote:Anyone know when are included in the USNWR rankings?

Not until they're accredited.
2014?


I thought it was 2013? If it's accredited this year would they be folded into this years rankings? And when do those rankings come out?

Moral of the story is, I wouldn't touch UCI until they are officially accredited and in the rankings. Also the lack of LS alumni makes it all the more troubling.

Not to mention that it's in an extremely crowded market that needed a new law school like I need a third tit.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby dingbat » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:51 pm

I can imagine no tangible benefit of choosing UCI over UCLA or USC, yet they're trying to maintain similar admissions standards. Perhaps UCI will settle in as the 5th best school in the state, but with 3rd and 4th right around the corner, what's the point?
(same argument - there are already two top 20 schools less than an hour away, which by SoCal standards means practically neighbors)

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:55 pm

I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby ajr » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:58 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.


I guess that makes sense; overall as a university they usually rank closer to Davis than to UCLA/USC/UCSD/UCSB.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby dingbat » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:59 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.

In which case they'll be competing with San Diego and it's too early to see of they're a better option. Why gamble 3 years and $150k on it?
(no surprise by the way)

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:00 pm

ajr wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.


I guess that makes sense; overall as a university they usually rank closer to Davis than to UCLA/USC/UCSD/UCSB.


Wicked UCSB trolling

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby ajr » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:01 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
ajr wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.


I guess that makes sense; overall as a university they usually rank closer to Davis than to UCLA/USC/UCSD/UCSB.


Wicked UCSB trolling


Maybe, but I'm an engineering/ science guy, so excused! :lol:

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby BoGuaGua » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:30 pm

contact the school for some actual information

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby 071816 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:55 pm

Fuck Erwin Chemerinsky

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby BoGuaGua » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:50 pm

Golden Bear 11 wrote:http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-absurdity-of-uc-irvine.html


totally legit, i was blogspot

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby TheZoid » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:10 pm

chimp wrote:Fuck Erwin Chemerinsky


Lol yea, but he must have some diesel connects to pull off 11/58 federal clerkships. And his book is a money supplement, but it takes long as shit to read and my resentment for him increases every time I read it.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Yukos » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:54 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
ajr wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.


I guess that makes sense; overall as a university they usually rank closer to Davis than to UCLA/USC/UCSD/UCSB.


Wicked UCSB trolling


lol this. UCSB belongs with UCSC at the bottom of the none-UCR/UCM barrel. Davis is 3rd or 4th best, depending on where you put UCSD.

But yeah, paradoxically a couple years ago UCI Law was a better bet with its huge fin aid, great faculty and small size. Now it's just a worse UCLA.

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Itinerant » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:39 pm

Yukos wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
ajr wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:I think the gave up on trying to keep the same admissions standards as USC/UCLA when they started expanding their class and stopped giving everyone full rides. The LSN graph puts them more in line with Hastings and Davis.


I guess that makes sense; overall as a university they usually rank closer to Davis than to UCLA/USC/UCSD/UCSB.


Wicked UCSB trolling


lol this. UCSB belongs with UCSC at the bottom of the none-UCR/UCM barrel. Davis is 3rd or 4th best, depending on where you put UCSD.

But yeah, paradoxically a couple years ago UCI Law was a better bet with its huge fin aid, great faculty and small size. Now it's just a worse UCLA.


Let's set this UC uni ranking straight:
Cal, UCLA, UCSD, Davis/UCI,...

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Yukos » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:04 pm

I always think of it in tiers.

HYS: Cal
T14: UCLA
T1: UCSD, UCD
T2: UCI, UCSB
TTT: UCSC
TTTT: UCR, UCM

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby Itinerant » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:29 pm

Yukos wrote:I always think of it in tiers.

HYS: Cal
T14: UCLA
T1: UCSD, UCD
T2: UCI, UCSB
TTT: UCSC
TTTT: UCR, UCM


lol that's about right

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Re: What's the word on UCI?

Postby timbs4339 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:38 pm

Do you really want to fork over 150K to be part of Dean Chemerinsky's vanity project?




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