UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

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Which one should I attend? (Aid amounts are for all 3 years combined)

Pepperdine (75K)
18
39%
Loyola L.A. (54K)
3
7%
UC Irvine (29K-39K) depending on additional grant $
25
54%
 
Total votes: 46

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UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:35 pm

Sorry this is yet another post about these 3 schools, just that I really wanted to include a poll on this one. I've been heavily leaning towards UCI, but I'm having trouble making my final decision as I only recently found out about scholarship totals. All opinions welcomed, I need to make my final decision within the next few hours.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby JamesChapman23 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:45 pm

I would love to know which lunatics have been voting for OP to shell out 150-200k for an unaccredited/unranked law school. 29k is insignificant compared to the high cost of living and patented-UC 5-10% tuition jumps every year.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby TheThriller » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:53 pm

At the same time, I wonder who would ever be advocating going to Loyola or Pep without a full tuition

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby rickgrimes69 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:17 pm

None of these schools is worth what you would be paying.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby rad lulz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:25 pm

rickgrimes69 wrote:None of these schools is worth what you would be paying.

TCR. Retake or don't go.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby boblawblog » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:59 pm

pepperdine with the money

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:15 pm

You are assuming you will finish in the top half of your class at Pepp and Loyola to retain your scholarships. You cant assume that.

We are a lot alike. Im MA with basically the same splitting stats. I got way better offers from southern and midwest schools who are willing to shell out real $$$ to MAs who are above the LSAT median.

Applying late probably hurt you. Seriously consider retaking and reapplying early to a broader ranger of schools. It will at least give you the leverage for the cali schools. You might even get an offer you cant turn down.

You are capable of getting much better offers next cycle.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:35 pm

Nova wrote:You are assuming you will finish in the top half of your class at Pepp and Loyola to retain your scholarships. You cant assume that.

We are a lot alike. Im MA with basically the same splitting stats. I got way better offers from southern and midwest schools who are willing to shell out real $$$ to MAs who are above the LSAT median.

Applying late probably hurt you. Seriously consider retaking and reapplying early to a broader ranger of schools. It will at least give you the leverage for the cali schools. You might even get an offer you cant turn down.

You are capable of getting much better offers next cycle.


Actually, the stipulation for Pepperdine is only good academic standing (2.0). And it's also been increased just a few minutes ago to 90k. is 90k really a bad offer? =/

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby rickgrimes69 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:18 pm

GueritaPeloChino wrote:
Nova wrote:You are assuming you will finish in the top half of your class at Pepp and Loyola to retain your scholarships. You cant assume that.

We are a lot alike. Im MA with basically the same splitting stats. I got way better offers from southern and midwest schools who are willing to shell out real $$$ to MAs who are above the LSAT median.

Applying late probably hurt you. Seriously consider retaking and reapplying early to a broader ranger of schools. It will at least give you the leverage for the cali schools. You might even get an offer you cant turn down.

You are capable of getting much better offers next cycle.


Actually, the stipulation for Pepperdine is only good academic standing (2.0). And it's also been increased just a few minutes ago to 90k. is 90k really a bad offer? =/


Pepperdine's total COA for c/o 2015 is just about $250,000, according to LST. (LinkRemoved) Subtract your $90k scholarship and you're still $160k in the hole.

That's way, way too expensive for Pepperdine, especially if the remainder will be paid with loans. A principal of $160,000 means you'll get the privilege of sending monthly installments of nearly $2000 for the next ten years. If you get a job (and that's a big if, as only 43% score LT, FL legal work) (LinkRemoved), assume you'll be making $60k at best. Your loan payments will eat up about half your net pay. If you do 25 years, you still end up paying over $1000 every month, and eventually pay over double what you originally borrowed for a total COA, with interest, of $363,000. That's nuts. Especially when you consider that you run a 27.5% chance of becoming completely unemployed altogether.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:26 pm

GueritaPeloChino wrote: Actually, the stipulation for Pepperdine is only good academic standing (2.0). And it's
also been increased just a few minutes ago to 90k. is 90k really a bad offer? =/


Oh I see. My bad, Ive only heard of top half, and top third stips from them.

Pepp is certainly your best offer, but still not good. RG layed it out very well.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:38 pm

rickgrimes69 wrote:
GueritaPeloChino wrote:
Nova wrote:You are assuming you will finish in the top half of your class at Pepp and Loyola to retain your scholarships. You cant assume that.

We are a lot alike. Im MA with basically the same splitting stats. I got way better offers from southern and midwest schools who are willing to shell out real $$$ to MAs who are above the LSAT median.

Applying late probably hurt you. Seriously consider retaking and reapplying early to a broader ranger of schools. It will at least give you the leverage for the cali schools. You might even get an offer you cant turn down.

You are capable of getting much better offers next cycle.


Actually, the stipulation for Pepperdine is only good academic standing (2.0). And it's also been increased just a few minutes ago to 90k. is 90k really a bad offer? =/


Pepperdine's total COA for c/o 2015 is just about $250,000, according to LST. (LinkRemoved) Subtract your $90k scholarship and you're still $160k in the hole.

That's way, way too expensive for Pepperdine, especially if the remainder will be paid with loans. A principal of $160,000 means you'll get the privilege of sending monthly installments of nearly $2000 for the next ten years. If you get a job (and that's a big if, as only 43% score LT, FL legal work) (LinkRemoved), assume you'll be making $60k at best. Your loan payments will eat up about half your net pay. If you do 25 years, you still end up paying over $1000 every month, and eventually pay over double what you originally borrowed for a total COA, with interest, of $363,000. That's nuts. Especially when you consider that you run a 27.5% chance of becoming completely unemployed altogether.


That would really be digging my own grave. Thanks for that. BUT, I actually will not have any housing costs so really I think I will only be paying the remainder of tuition + books + 200/month for gas. Everything else like housing and food is being generously provided.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Danteshek » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:01 pm

I still think you should go to Pepperdine.

-LLS '12

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Dreas » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:09 pm

Danteshek wrote:I still think you should go to Pepperdine.

-LLS '12


Over Loyola because of the extra funding or..?

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Danteshek » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:13 pm

Dreas wrote:
Danteshek wrote:I still think you should go to Pepperdine.

-LLS '12


Over Loyola because of the extra funding or..?


More money and the Pepperdine scholarship stipulation is more relaxed (~top 50% at LLS vs. 2.0 at Pepperdine). I've spoken to her and I'm not sure she would really benefit that much from the programs at LLS that don't have equivalents at Pepperdine.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby romothesavior » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:52 am

rad lulz wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:None of these schools is worth what you would be paying.

TCR. Retake or don't go.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Danteshek » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:09 am

She isn't paying...

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby PDaddy » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:33 am

$90K at Pepperdine wins. It's the best offer you have.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby rad lulz » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:21 am

Danteshek wrote:She isn't paying...

I literally would never go to Pepperdine or LLS at any price ITE.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Dreas » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:20 pm

Curious, what did you decide?

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby bigvinny » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:44 pm

pep with the cash is your best option here

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Dreas » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:47 pm

bigvinny wrote:pep with the cash is your best option here


This is new information, thank you.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Dreas » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:55 pm

So multiple threads about this but no post on your decision?

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Aequitas_ » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:50 am

UCI at sticker price > either of the other two schools. That school will rank well.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Nova » Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:42 am

Aequitas_ wrote:UCI at sticker price > either of the other two schools. That school will rank well.


No one should attend any school outside the T14 at sticker unless they are loaded.

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Re: UCI vs Loyola vs Pepperdine

Postby Paul Campos » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:54 pm

Aequitas_ wrote:UCI at sticker price > either of the other two schools. That school will rank well.



There's a good chance UCI won't even exist ten years from now, given that California needed another $75K per year COA law school about as much as the Sahara needs more sand.




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