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Postby mavshoosiers4life » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:48 pm

opinions on texas Wesleyan, south texas college of law, st mary's?

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Re: texas schools

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:54 pm

mavshoosiers4life wrote:opinions on texas Wesleyan, south texas college of law, st mary's?

Some opinions (in no particular order):
All have similarly shitty biglaw job prospects.
I wish all of them would close their doors.
TTTexas Wesleyan is currently being acquired by tttexas a&m.
Don't go to any of them. It's not worth it.
Don't listen to the one or two people who have success graduating from those schools. You won't be that person.

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Re: texas schools

Postby xcedrin2000 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:56 pm

OP, what do you want to do with your JD?

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Re: texas schools

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:59 pm

xcedrin2000 wrote:OP, what do you want to do with your JD?

Nope. Still not worth it.

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Postby Nova » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:03 pm

IMO,

StM >>> STCL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TexWes

At least Saint Mary's is the only law school in the San Antonio. They actually place better than many T1s.
They are really expensive though. Its not worth anything close to sticker.

StM wrote:78.3% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes no school-funded jobs..
88% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
88.4% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

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Re: texas schools

Postby top30man » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:10 pm

xcedrin2000 wrote:OP, what do you want to do with your JD?

If the answer is "get a job" then avoid all of these.

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Postby xcedrin2000 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:12 pm

Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment

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Postby TheThriller » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:40 pm

xcedrin2000 wrote:Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment


Stop.

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Postby mr.hands » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:13 pm

MillerTheThriller wrote:
xcedrin2000 wrote:Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment


Stop.


Now.

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Postby JamesChapman23 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:43 pm

All great schools. But McGeorge Dominates.

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Postby eaper » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:55 pm

xcedrin2000 wrote:Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment


A lot of people that go to Wes are further on in their careers and have a job lined up already/getting it so they can know a bit more about the law to help their business, etc. If that's what you want and Wes is close and cheap (free), it's not a HORRIBLE investment. If you are going K-JD and you aren't guaranteed a job from daddy when you graduate, you probably want to avoid Wes.

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Re: texas schools

Postby patrickd139 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:03 pm

eaper wrote:
xcedrin2000 wrote:Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment


A lot of people that go to Wes are further on in their careers and have a job lined up already/getting it so they can know a bit more about the law to help their business, etc. If that's what you want and Wes is close and cheap (free), it's not a HORRIBLE investment. If you are going K-JD and you aren't guaranteed a job from daddy when you graduate, you probably want to avoid Wes.
patrickd139 wrote:Don't listen to the one or two people who have success graduating from those schools. You won't be that person.

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Re: texas schools

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:04 pm

xcedrin2000 wrote:Contrary to what others may believe, going to one of these schools in not always a bad investment. True, you must know what a JD from one these institutions provides but if you are comfortable with what it affords it is not always a bad investment

just because you're personally ok with a bad decision does not mean that making the decision is any better.

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Postby kalvano » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:18 pm

If you want to find a job, the name of your school better be UT, SMU, or UofH.

Wesleyan is terrible. Just terrible.

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Postby patrickd139 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:02 am

kalvano wrote:If you want to find a job, the name of your school better be UT, SMU, or UofH.

Wesleyan is terrible. Just terrible.

Basically, this.

Although I do wonder if they can build up to a TTTech level school once tamu takes over.

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Postby Calchexas » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:39 pm

It must be tough having people shout down the places you're interested in attending. Know that they just don't want another person to dump hundreds of thousands of dollars for a degree that's worth only the paper and frame (most anyways - there could be one or two people who just get jollies off this stuff).

St. Mary's: not impressed. Several of the St. Mary's grads I've spoken with seem like they're in rough patches, and not once have I heard them trumpet their school's greatness when in my presence.

STCL: Honestly, I don't have much of an opinion on STCL one way or the other.

Wesleyan: One of the less desirable reputations in the area, but I'm hopeful that A&M could strengthen it. Definitely not in time for your benefit, though - this is more of a 5-40 year project.


So that's my opinion. Your time spent at any of these institutions may or may not be wasted, but there's a possibility it could work out well at any of them. Use your judgment and decide if it's really worth the money and/or time.

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Postby utlaw2007 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:36 pm

kalvano wrote:If you want to find a job, the name of your school better be UT, SMU, or UofH.

Wesleyan is terrible. Just terrible.


This all day.

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Re: texas schools

Postby Titleist » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:49 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
mavshoosiers4life wrote:opinions on texas Wesleyan, south texas college of law, st mary's?

Some opinions (in no particular order):
All have similarly shitty biglaw job prospects.
I wish all of them would close their doors.
TTTexas Wesleyan is currently being acquired by tttexas a&m.
Don't go to any of them. It's not worth it.
Don't listen to the one or two people who have success graduating from those schools. You won't be that person.


Everything in this post.


Seriously. Buck up and ace the LSAT and get into UT, UHLC, SMU or Baylor.


If that does not work out go to Tech.


If that does not work out save your money.

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Re: texas schools

Postby patrickd139 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:58 pm

Titleist wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
mavshoosiers4life wrote:opinions on texas Wesleyan, south texas college of law, st mary's?

Some opinions (in no particular order):
All have similarly shitty biglaw job prospects.
I wish all of them would close their doors.
TTTexas Wesleyan is currently being acquired by tttexas a&m.
Don't go to any of them. It's not worth it.
Don't listen to the one or two people who have success graduating from those schools. You won't be that person.


Everything in this post.


Seriously. Buck up and ace the LSAT and get into UT, UHLC, SMU or Baylor.


If that does not work out go to Tech.


If that does not work out save your money.

Upon reflection, I thought of something else to add: Don't confuse each of those schools' ability to get you past the bar exam with their ability to get you a job. One of the funniest stats I heard as a 'plus' for Texas Wesleyan was their high bar passage rate.

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Re: texas schools

Postby ajhoffman » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:41 pm

Where does Baylor stand on your list, everyone?

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Postby kalvano » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:05 pm

ajhoffman wrote:Where does Baylor stand on your list, everyone?


Somewhere between the 6th and 8th Circles.


Baylor is awful. Why would you subject yourself to that type of torture?

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Postby ndirish2010 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:10 pm

kalvano wrote:
ajhoffman wrote:Where does Baylor stand on your list, everyone?


Somewhere between the 6th and 8th Circles.


Baylor is awful. Why would you subject yourself to that type of torture?


I have a feeling this post reaches deeper than Baylor's abysmal job placement. Hopefully, you realize that some people actually like the environment that Baylor creates. Whatever happened to tolerance, did liberalism leave that behind?

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Postby kalvano » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:19 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ajhoffman wrote:Where does Baylor stand on your list, everyone?


Somewhere between the 6th and 8th Circles.


Baylor is awful. Why would you subject yourself to that type of torture?


I have a feeling this post reaches deeper than Baylor's abysmal job placement. Hopefully, you realize that some people actually like the environment that Baylor creates. Whatever happened to tolerance, did liberalism leave that behind?


What the fuck do politics have to do with that?

Baylor creates a miserable environment that is harsh and ridiculously stressful, requiring more work than other schools. They are proud of how miserable they try and make people. Law school sucks enough without subjecting yourself to one of the most competitive and shitty ones on the planet.

See this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=192436&p=5871981&hilit=Baylor#p5871981


Most telling response?

Is there anything else she thinks a 1L should know?

If you can transfer at the end of the year, do so. [literally my fiance's first reaction to this question]

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Re: texas schools

Postby ndirish2010 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:21 pm

kalvano wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
kalvano wrote:
ajhoffman wrote:Where does Baylor stand on your list, everyone?


Somewhere between the 6th and 8th Circles.


Baylor is awful. Why would you subject yourself to that type of torture?


I have a feeling this post reaches deeper than Baylor's abysmal job placement. Hopefully, you realize that some people actually like the environment that Baylor creates. Whatever happened to tolerance, did liberalism leave that behind?


What the fuck do politics have to do with that?

Baylor creates a miserable environment that is harsh and ridiculously stressful, requiring more work than other schools. They are proud of how miserable they try and make people. Law school sucks enough without subjecting yourself to one of the most competitive and shitty ones on the planet.

See this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=192436&p=5871981&hilit=Baylor#p5871981


Most telling response?

Is there anything else she thinks a 1L should know?

If you can transfer at the end of the year, do so. [literally my fiance's first reaction to this question]


I've seen several people in the past talk about the "torture" of Baylor and followed it up with statements about religion, so I could only assume yours was that as well. If that was a faulty assumption, I apologize. I've seen it about Pepperdine too.

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Postby kalvano » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:23 pm

Oh. OK. Baylor the school is very religious, but its my understanding the law school is much less so. The school itself is just miserable. Also, Waco is awful.




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