Tiago Splitter wrote:
rayiner wrote:The difference in PI placement between NYU and Penn in 2008 was about +7%, which is almost entirely offset by the 6% of Penn folks who clerked.
NYU counts clerks separately too.
Right. My point is that in 2008, NYU and Penn placed about the same into law firms. Out of the rest, a lot of NYU folks did public interest, while at Penn a correspondingly large contingent did clerkships.
It's also interesting to look at 2011. NYU had 31 more school-funded placements in 2011 than it did in 2008. If you consider these 31 placements to be undesirable outcomes (and all of Penn's school-funded placements to be undesirable outcomes), it looks like Penn did much better at the bottom:
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Not employed: 4.3% 4.4%
School funded: 6.7% 4.3%
Firm < 50 atty: 14% 5.8%
Total: 25% 14.5%
This isn't the whole list of undesirable outcomes (I didn't count state clerkships, b/c I didn't want to do the math), but Penn comes out looking much better.
My interpretation of this is that Penn and NYU were roughly the same during the boom, but when the economy tanked NYU ran into difficulties placing the bottom of its class given it has no fallback markets besides NYC.