U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Ludo! » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 am

At least they used a picture of a building better looking than our actual law school.

Seriously though, you couldn't have just bumped the old thread?

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby androstan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:24 am

Sorry, didn't see it.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby adammac17 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:41 am

Whose the dude on the left in the photo?

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby androstan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:46 am

adammac17 wrote:Whose the dude on the left in the photo?


I think it's just one of the employees of the bar/casino.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Ludo! » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:04 pm

It's Scott McLellan's head on Bogie's body

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby PolySuyGuy » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:55 pm

androstan wrote:http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/u_of_illinois_law_school_is_publicly_censured_for_misreporting_admissions_d/


wow a $250K fine.

The University of Illinois College of Law has been publicly censured and fined $250,000 for intentionally reporting and publishing false admissions data in six out of the last 10 years.



I am just glad the school won't increase law tuition, stop fee waivers, and add hidden fees to student debt load to pay for that. Oh, wait......

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Betharl » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:51 pm

The biggest sanction there seems to be the elimination of I-leap. A program that allowed high GPA Illinois undergrads to be accepted to the College of Law without taking the LSAT. I think they usually took 15-20 kids through this program every year. The elimination of that program could definetely affect their numbers.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Yukos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:25 pm

Betharl wrote:The biggest sanction there seems to be the elimination of I-leap. A program that allowed high GPA Illinois undergrads to be accepted to the College of Law without taking the LSAT. I think they usually took 15-20 kids through this program every year. The elimination of that program could definetely affect their numbers.


Yeah that was a great way to game the numbers. Especially when they reported the people without LSATs as having received 180s.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby adammac17 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:32 pm

Especially when they reported the people without LSATs as having received 180s.[/quote]

Thats not true at all lol - as a UIUC student who read through the report pretty well, the ileap kids were excluded from the LSAT calculations.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Yukos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:56 pm

adammac17 wrote:Especially when they reported the people without LSATs as having received 180s.


Thats not true at all lol - as a UIUC student who read through the report pretty well, the ileap kids were excluded from the LSAT calculations.[/quote]

Sorry you're right. iLeap people had their GPAs inputted as 4.0, even though they had actual GPAs. Their LSAT was unaffected.

During an interview with investigators, Pless stated that he put the 4.0 GPAs into the
Dashboard for the iLEAP students as “placeholders,” which he forgot to update later with the
students’ correct GPAs. Pless did not provide an explanation as to why placeholders were used
for these Urbana-Champaign undergraduate students instead of the students’ real GPAs, which
were readily accessible. According to Pless, this was one of multiple inadvertent errors that he
made in compiling LSAT and GPA data for the Class of 2014. All the other student profile data
contained in the tabs of the April 14th Dashboard Report are consistent with LSAC data.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby androstan » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:43 pm

Yukos wrote:
adammac17 wrote:Especially when they reported the people without LSATs as having received 180s.

Thats not true at all lol - as a UIUC student who read through the report pretty well, the ileap kids were excluded from the LSAT calculations.


Sorry you're right. iLeap people had their GPAs inputted as 4.0, even though they had actual GPAs. Their LSAT was unaffected.

During an interview with investigators, Pless stated that he put the 4.0 GPAs into the
Dashboard for the iLEAP students as “placeholders,” which he forgot to update later with the
students’ correct GPAs. Pless did not provide an explanation as to why placeholders were used
for these Urbana-Champaign undergraduate students instead of the students’ real GPAs, which
were readily accessible. According to Pless, this was one of multiple inadvertent errors that he
made in compiling LSAT and GPA data for the Class of 2014. All the other student profile data
contained in the tabs of the April 14th Dashboard Report are consistent with LSAC data.


roflcopter

I would barely blink an eye if the ileap admits were autoassigned 180 LSATs "by mistake."

By the way, the fraud/deception lawsuits against Golden Gate and USF survived motion to dismiss:

http://lawschooltransparency.com/lawsui ... ismiss.pdf

http://lawschooltransparency.com/lawsui ... ismiss.pdf

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby 2014 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:24 pm

I wonder what Pless is up to nowadays.

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Re: U. Illinois Reporting False Admissions Data

Postby Ludo! » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:31 am

2014 wrote:I wonder what Pless is up to nowadays.


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