UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

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GueritaPeloChino
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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:57 pm

bankruptedcasino wrote:I am here to try and talk sense into you. UCI/Pepperdine/LLS are all similarly regarded in the legal communities in southern California. While UCI isn't ranked, it is considered relatively equal with Pepperdine and LLS though some attorneys hold it in less regard.

Southern California's legal market is complete and utter poo. It's a mess, shambles, devoid of all hope and optimism. 3Ls from UCLA and USC are having trouble finding work at respectable firms if they are not at the top of their class/on law review/related to a senior partner at a firm like O'Melveny and [deleted]/related to a federal judge.

I do not think that you shouldn't go to law school. Far from it. I'm one of those TLSer's that believe that if you are going to go to a school that is not the top-ranked school in your geographic area, then you should go to the school that costs the least. Pepperdine and LLS are very pricey, but your schollys make it manageable. UCI will cost about as much as going to Pepperdine and LLS at full sticker. Very risky gamble.

In the end, do what you think is best for you. But ask yourself: 10 years after graduation, if you only graduate at median at UCI (can't expect anything more as a 0L) and struggle to find work for a couple years after you take the bar, only to find yourself employed as an in-house counsel at a debt collection agency ... will you be so enamored with UCI's small class size and faculty-student ratio? Put another way, when you can't buy a house until you're in your 50s because your debt is too high and the cost of a house in southern California is so prohibitively expensive, will you be grateful that you spent 3 years at a school you thought you could thrive at?

I dunno, maybe your parents will pay for the whole thing in which case ... game on. But if they don't, you might be wise to ask them to pay for all/half of a very reduced bill at Pepperdine or LLS.


This really helped bump me off my cloud.
This is why I came on TLS- to help snap me out of my fantasy world. =/
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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby tooswolle » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:21 pm

Out of all the schools you named I believe UCI will give you the best chances at a high paying job due to its buzz around the Southern California markets. The school also has a top faculty. However, I would caution against going there without a decent scholarship as the debt would be high.

On a side note did UCI's tuition really go down? I deferred a year and have been in the dark about tution since then as well as on the fence on taking some debt and enrolling next year. My scholarship is pretty good that tuition decreases would make up my mind.

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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby splitsplat » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:29 pm

GueritaPeloChino wrote:I was surprised tuition for UCI Law actually went down this year- it's $42k.

I guess reading all those great things about their first graduating class really put my hopes up. I couldn't accept the scholly from Davis because of family not supporting my moving out of SoCal, so I thought I could make up for the disappointment with another UC. I should be hearing from them early next regarding merit aid. Though, they made it clear it wouldn't be as good an offer as the ones from the other schools.


lol whut?

2011-12 $44,347.50
2012-13 $46,804.50

GueritaPeloChino
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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:41 am

splitsplat wrote:
GueritaPeloChino wrote:I was surprised tuition for UCI Law actually went down this year- it's $42k.

I guess reading all those great things about their first graduating class really put my hopes up. I couldn't accept the scholly from Davis because of family not supporting my moving out of SoCal, so I thought I could make up for the disappointment with another UC. I should be hearing from them early next regarding merit aid. Though, they made it clear it wouldn't be as good an offer as the ones from the other schools.


lol whut?

2011-12 $44,347.50
2012-13 $46,804.50


In that case, I was completely misinformed by someone in the admissions office. I just spoke to them last week and they were pretty confident it had gone down. I guess it only gets worse =/

Thanks for the correction.

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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby bankruptedcasino » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:47 am

GueritaPeloChino wrote:
bankruptedcasino wrote:I am here to try and talk sense into you. UCI/Pepperdine/LLS are all similarly regarded in the legal communities in southern California. While UCI isn't ranked, it is considered relatively equal with Pepperdine and LLS though some attorneys hold it in less regard.

Southern California's legal market is complete and utter poo. It's a mess, shambles, devoid of all hope and optimism. 3Ls from UCLA and USC are having trouble finding work at respectable firms if they are not at the top of their class/on law review/related to a senior partner at a firm like O'Melveny and [deleted]/related to a federal judge.

I do not think that you shouldn't go to law school. Far from it. I'm one of those TLSer's that believe that if you are going to go to a school that is not the top-ranked school in your geographic area, then you should go to the school that costs the least. Pepperdine and LLS are very pricey, but your schollys make it manageable. UCI will cost about as much as going to Pepperdine and LLS at full sticker. Very risky gamble.

In the end, do what you think is best for you. But ask yourself: 10 years after graduation, if you only graduate at median at UCI (can't expect anything more as a 0L) and struggle to find work for a couple years after you take the bar, only to find yourself employed as an in-house counsel at a debt collection agency ... will you be so enamored with UCI's small class size and faculty-student ratio? Put another way, when you can't buy a house until you're in your 50s because your debt is too high and the cost of a house in southern California is so prohibitively expensive, will you be grateful that you spent 3 years at a school you thought you could thrive at?

I dunno, maybe your parents will pay for the whole thing in which case ... game on. But if they don't, you might be wise to ask them to pay for all/half of a very reduced bill at Pepperdine or LLS.


This really helped bump me off my cloud.
This is why I came on TLS- to help snap me out of my fantasy world. =/
Thanks!


Glad I could help. There are worse places to study law than Malibu and, if you choose LLS, a friend of mine said it was critical to get an apartment near the school since you will have zero motivation to slog through traffic to go to class some days and end up missing a bunch. Good luck!

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Re: UC Irvine vs. Pepperdine $$$ vs. Loyola

Postby Dreas » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:22 pm

So what did you end up deciding?




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