LOL at Rutgers-Camden

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Hank Moody
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Re: LOL at Rutgers-Camden

Postby Hank Moody » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:35 pm

keg411 wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:Well it seems as if students expect RUC to give them a shot at local clerkships and small firms/local NJ government. So it is not public interest, but still very low paying.


Rutgers-Newark and Seton Hall offer the exact same prospects as Rutgers-Camden. Rutgers-Newark costs the same ($24k). Seton Hall charges a whopping $45k/year for tuition. I'd say in comparison to the competition, the Rutgers-Camden cost is NOT expensive for in-state. Besides CUNY and one of the mountain west schools (I think Montana?), I'm pretty sure no other state school is under $20k/year.

UB?

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Re: LOL at Rutgers-Camden

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:38 pm

Hank Moody wrote:
keg411 wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:Well it seems as if students expect RUC to give them a shot at local clerkships and small firms/local NJ government. So it is not public interest, but still very low paying.


Rutgers-Newark and Seton Hall offer the exact same prospects as Rutgers-Camden. Rutgers-Newark costs the same ($24k). Seton Hall charges a whopping $45k/year for tuition. I'd say in comparison to the competition, the Rutgers-Camden cost is NOT expensive for in-state. Besides CUNY and one of the mountain west schools (I think Montana?), I'm pretty sure no other state school is under $20k/year.

UB?

All of the Florida state schools.

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Re: LOL at Rutgers-Camden

Postby keg411 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:43 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Hank Moody wrote:
keg411 wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:Well it seems as if students expect RUC to give them a shot at local clerkships and small firms/local NJ government. So it is not public interest, but still very low paying.


Rutgers-Newark and Seton Hall offer the exact same prospects as Rutgers-Camden. Rutgers-Newark costs the same ($24k). Seton Hall charges a whopping $45k/year for tuition. I'd say in comparison to the competition, the Rutgers-Camden cost is NOT expensive for in-state. Besides CUNY and one of the mountain west schools (I think Montana?), I'm pretty sure no other state school is under $20k/year.

UB?

All of the Florida state schools.


Last I heard during my cycle they were raising in-state tuition, but maybe that changed and they're still cheap.

Now, of the schools that charge under $20k/year, how difficult is it to get residency? At both Rutgers schools, the only thing you need to get residency is sign a lease for the upcoming year. So no one is paying OOS tuition 1L year. Whereas at UF/FSU/UGA/UB, I'd bet half of the student population is paying OOS rates 1L year. (Not the I recommend going to any of these schools as a OOS student -- the exact opposite -- but it's still a point).

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Re: LOL at Rutgers-Camden

Postby timbs4339 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:36 pm

keg411 wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:Well it seems as if students expect RUC to give them a shot at local clerkships and small firms/local NJ government. So it is not public interest, but still very low paying.


Rutgers-Newark and Seton Hall offer the exact same prospects as Rutgers-Camden. Rutgers-Newark costs the same ($24k). Seton Hall charges a whopping $45k/year for tuition. I'd say in comparison to the competition, the Rutgers-Camden cost is NOT expensive for in-state. Besides CUNY and one of the mountain west schools (I think Montana?), I'm pretty sure no other state school is under $20k/year.


See: http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ngs/page+5

Most of the South/Midwest/West publics are under 20K per year in-state (this might not be true for long, though). And if you can't get in-state tuition you probably should not be going to most public law schools anyway since you won't have ties.

Seton Hall should be closed, no doubt about that. But 75K in debt is still higher than the starting salaries of most RUC grads. I tend to follow the rule that debt upon graduation should be no more than starting salary. At this RUC and RUN have failed most of their grads, even discounting CoL debt. Perhaps they should merge the schools and use the redundancies to cut costs.




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