NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

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NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:34 pm

Take the money?

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Danteshek » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:40 pm

Stips?

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:03 pm

yea, stay in top 75%, very doable in my book

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby MrAnon » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:06 pm

Your book? What book is that. avoid both these schools. How or why anyone would consider them is beyond me

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:08 pm

well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby mr.hands » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:11 pm

LawStudent2K12 wrote:well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers


I get the strange feeling that you did poorly on the LSAT

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby rad lulz » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:12 pm

LawStudent2K12 wrote:well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

Your assumption is that these schools will give you a solid shot at the ability to practice. Go look at the employment stats. You assumption is unwarranted.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:17 pm

I wouldn't say poorly, I did "alright". I know many guys who attended these schools and have gone into practice. In the end it was who they knew and their will that got them where they are now.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Nova » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:18 pm

Brooklyn at sticker is a no go.

Retake is BY FAR your best option. If you are unwilling, take the money. Just know that the odds are stacked greatly against you. As in a 2/3 chance of not getting a FT LT JD reqd job by nine months after graduation.
BLS c/o 2011 wrote:•47.3% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes no school-funded jobs..
•59.6% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•63.7% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

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NYLS c/o 2011 wrote:•35.5% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes an unknown number school-funded jobs.
•59.8% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•60.6% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Teflon_Jeff » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:19 pm

I wish I could summon nova, he makes such beautiful little employment boxes.

EDIT: Hah, he was simul-posting them! Awesome!

OP: what are your numbers? (LSAT, GPA)

In general, neither of these schools is worth the money you're about to borrow for them.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Nova » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:20 pm

Teflon_Jeff wrote:I wish I could summon nova, he makes such beautiful little employment boxes.


Summoned :P

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:21 pm

160/3.2

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Nova » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:37 pm

LawStudent2K12 wrote:160/3.2


Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?

Youll have to make a new screen name, but you should seriously retake. There are many schools in between NYLS and NYU that are worth attending with scholarships that are attainable with a 3.2

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby top30man » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:37 pm

rad lulz wrote:
LawStudent2K12 wrote:well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

Your assumption is that these schools will give you a solid shot at the ability to practice. Go look at the employment stats. You assumption is unwarranted.

This. And anyone can if they study and retake.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Teflon_Jeff » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:45 pm

Retake.

Or alternately, attend one of these schools and pick a high-rise from which to throw yourself when you take out 200K in loans for absolutely no good gorram reason.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby LawStudent2K12 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:47 pm

Nova wrote:
LawStudent2K12 wrote:160/3.2


Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?



Per year

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby rad lulz » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:14 pm

LawStudent2K12 wrote:
Nova wrote:
LawStudent2K12 wrote:160/3.2


Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?



Per year

NYLS is not worth attending under any circumstances.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby Nova » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:30 pm

LawStudent2K12 wrote:
Nova wrote:
LawStudent2K12 wrote:160/3.2


Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?



Per year


Ok, thats what I originally assumed. So you are looking at about 55k tuition over 3 years + COL which im guessing is another 60k over three years. 99% of posters will not endorse attending a T3/T4 in a saturated market if one has to finance 100k+ to make it happen. Would you possibly be able to live with mama? Or do you have a boo who could take care of your COL over the next 3 years?

Rad is right, spending 3 years, even without taking into account the 100k+ debt, for a 35% chance at ftltjdr employment is a bad idea. Taking out 100k debt to finance the opportunity is really bad idea, but still less bad, IMO, than attending BLS at sticker. Attending BLS and accumulating 200k+ debt for less than 50% chance at ftltjdr employment is dumb as fuck. A good idea would be to retake the LSAT.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby dingbat » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:22 pm

rad lulz wrote:NYLS is not worth attending under any circumstances.

seconded. think about this: more graduates are unemployed than have a real legal job. This isn't a law school so much as a diploma mill.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby gardners2 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:39 pm

If you got a 160 the first time, you can do much better. I improved over 10 points from my original 158. I know how you feel about the scholarship. I applied to NYLS, way before I found TLS, and got a full ride. Thought about going, but instead retook and got basically the same offer from a TT. I should have turned the money down from the TT and reapplied. Basically, I am telling you to not make the same mistake that I made. If you get a 165+, you can get money from a lot of schools. Apps are way down, and schools are reaching deep into lower numbers.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby cinephile » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:15 am

LawStudent2K12 wrote:I know many guys who attended these schools and have gone into practice. In the end it was who they knew and their will that got them where they are now.


Who do you know?

Also, if you scored high enough on your retake to go somewhere like Brooklyn tuition-free, that would be a decent option, especially if you have a job lined up for you.

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Re: NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law

Postby grimfan » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:52 am

People with substandard grades who get low scores on the MCAT don't go to the University of American Samoa Medical School to pursue their dream of becoming a doctor no matter what. If they are below a certain cutoff point, these students are forced to realize that they simply haven't made the cut for med school, and they pursue other paths.

It should be the same with law school. The job market out there clearly states that not everyone is entitled to a legal career. If you haven't got the grades and the test scores for whatever reason, then save yourself (or your benefactor) the cost and trouble of paying for a near-worthless degree.

The law school culture in America seems to have made everyone think that they're entitled to a legal career, but the reality is that they're only entitled to a legal education. The difference is huge, and unscrupulous law schools like NYLS are banking on the fact that many people won't make that distinction.




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