USC or UCLA?

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USC or UCLA?

Postby Fark-o-vision » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:12 am

To be honest, I shouldn't probably start this discussion, because it doesn't much apply to me, but after going over the class of 2011 data, I've had to review a lot of my thoughts about the two. I thought discussing it might be helpful in a general way, and set my mind at ease.

General wisdom has been that UCLA and USC are essentially identical, with the margin going to UCLA. However, class of 2011 stats would suggest that USC has more than a marginal margin edge in almost every way. What am I missing?

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:17 am

neither

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby Fark-o-vision » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:22 am

Well, I'm not hoping to discuss if either is worth it at cost, or worth it at all, only if USC truly outperforms UCLA to such a degree that it is clearly the better option. Let's face it, at a 9K total difference, it isn't a hard conversation to have.

Say, full boat to both. Any reason to select UCLA over USC?

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:34 am

Yes, UCLA is better.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby Paul Campos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:06 am

Both are highly ranked seriously overpriced Los Angeles law schools currently producing fairly catastrophic outcomes for about half their graduates.

Other than that they don't have a lot in common.

Seriously, look at these stats:

UCLA class of 2011:

344 grads

64 grads employed in Feb 2012 by the school. 55 of these in short-term part-time "jobs."

23 people flat unemployed.

50 working for 2-10 lawyer firms.

27 in "business and industry." Probably not in-house for Disney.

USC

207 grads

Ten in law school funded jobs. Eight were short-term part-time.

29 (14% of the class) completely unemployed (two grads couldn't even be found so this is probably 15%).

4 working as solos and 28 for firms of 2-10

15 in business and industry.

Seven went back to school.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:05 am

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/07/when-the ... aw-school/

Also, UCLA law school is apparently rat infested.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby marlborofillet » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:55 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:http://abovethelaw.com/2012/07/when-the-kids-are-away-the-rats-will-play-no-seriously-there-are-rats-infesting-a-law-school/

Also, UCLA law school is apparently rat infested.


This is a legit concern.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby moneybagsphd » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:31 pm

Lawquacious wrote:Yes, UCLA is better.

The difference is negligible. So, no, this is not a valid reason.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby coldpixies » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:27 am

I'm curious to hear more about people's thoughts on this, since i was just pulled off the WL at UCLA and have been planning on going to USC for the past 4 months. Costs will be about the same and I want BigLaw in SoCal, which USC seems to place better. Yet conventional TLS wisdom says to go with UCLA, so needless to say it's a tough decision.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby 071816 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:43 am

coldpixies wrote:I'm curious to hear more about people's thoughts on this, since i was just pulled off the WL at UCLA and have been planning on going to USC for the past 4 months. Costs will be about the same and I want BigLaw in SoCal, which USC seems to place better. Yet conventional TLS wisdom says to go with UCLA, so needless to say it's a tough decision.

Conventional TLS wisdom says they're essentially the same so go to the cheaper one. At equal costs, just go to the one you like better after visiting both. Also keep in mind UC tuition hikes.

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Re: USC or UCLA?

Postby splitbrain » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:45 pm

chimp wrote:
coldpixies wrote:I'm curious to hear more about people's thoughts on this, since i was just pulled off the WL at UCLA and have been planning on going to USC for the past 4 months. Costs will be about the same and I want BigLaw in SoCal, which USC seems to place better. Yet conventional TLS wisdom says to go with UCLA, so needless to say it's a tough decision.

Conventional TLS wisdom says they're essentially the same so go to the cheaper one. At equal costs, just go to the one you like better after visiting both. Also keep in mind UC tuition hikes.

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