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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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derisivesubversion wrote:

Excellent analogy. I have never met someone who had a law degree and didn't have a job practicing law with the exception of an executive or 2. But then again, I'm not an unemployment counselor or soup kitchen volunteer either.


I have met a LOT of them. Off the top of my head, a photographer, a flight attendant, a couple pilots, an ADA Army Captain, and those are just a few that pop off the top of my head.

It was the Army Captain that warned me about TTTTs and that if I actually wanted to practice law then WHICH school I chose to attend actually mattered. (He went to Samford in AL BTW) He is a very accomplished military officer and trying to become a JAG with no luck at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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dresden doll wrote:
If she insists on going, divorce her. No, really.


She's scared to retake? It's too hard?

What.the.fuck. She doesn't sound mature enough to make this choice. Tell her you won't help her pay for it and see what happens


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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EdgarWinter wrote:
Hope you signed a nice pre-nup. You don't want to be on the hook for the loans she won't be able to pay back.

That is neither how pre-nups nor student loans work.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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When you tell her "you're not going to get a job from Charlotte School of Law" she's hearing "I don't have faith in your abilities." She doesn't believe you when you tell her most people from Charlotte School of Law won't get jobs as lawyers--that runs counter to the common narrative about law school.

Couch your argument, instead, as about not wanting her to settle. Tell her it's a choice between any old legal career, and a top legal career. Point out how many fancy lawyers went to UNC and how no matter how great you are it always helps to get a head start by going to a brand-name school. Convince her of your faith in her ability to do better and your disappointment in her deciding to settle. Pandering with a touch of guilt is going to get you much further than just laying the facts out.


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rayiner wrote:
When you tell her "you're not going to get a job from Charlotte School of Law" she's hearing "I don't have faith in your abilities." She doesn't believe you when you tell her most people from Charlotte School of Law won't get jobs as lawyers--that runs counter to the common narrative about law school.

Couch your argument, instead, as about not wanting her to settle. Tell her it's a choice between any old legal career, and a top legal career. Point out how many fancy lawyers went to UNC and how no matter how great you are it always helps to get a head start by going to a brand-name school. Convince her of your faith in her ability to do better and your disappointment in her deciding to settle. Pandering with a touch of guilt is going to get you much further than just laying the facts out.


I'm married, and Rayiner is right.


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IAFG wrote:
EdgarWinter wrote:
Hope you signed a nice pre-nup. You don't want to be on the hook for the loans she won't be able to pay back.

That is neither how pre-nups nor student loans work.


Loans incurred after marriage are marital debts, as is interest accrued on loans entered into prior to marriage.


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Paul Campos wrote:
IAFG wrote:
EdgarWinter wrote:
Hope you signed a nice pre-nup. You don't want to be on the hook for the loans she won't be able to pay back.

That is neither how pre-nups nor student loans work.


Loans incurred after marriage are marital debts, as is interest accrued on loans entered into prior to marriage.

Isn't that only the case in 9 states, none of which are North Carolina?


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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IAFG wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:
IAFG wrote:
EdgarWinter wrote:
Hope you signed a nice pre-nup. You don't want to be on the hook for the loans she won't be able to pay back.

That is neither how pre-nups nor student loans work.


Loans incurred after marriage are marital debts, as is interest accrued on loans entered into prior to marriage.

Isn't that only the case in 9 states, none of which are North Carolina?


You're confusing community property with marital property. Since NC isn't a CP state as long as they remain married the debt is legally hers, but if they get divorced it's then divided "equitably" between them.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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I'll just leave this here:

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/clearinghouse/?school=charlotte


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/busin ... wanted=all

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/busin ... wanted=all

I trust the married guys more, but some NY Times articles about how TTTs destroy your future can't hurt either.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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It's never a good sign when your law school's website can end in ".org." At least Cooley ends in "edu" and is relatively cheaper.


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Paul Campos wrote:
You're confusing community property with marital property. Since NC isn't a CP state as long as they remain married the debt is legally hers, but if they get divorced it's then divided "equitably" between them.


Professor - So if my wife goes out on her own and buys a Ferrari to joyride around in, with borrowed money, part of the debt would get equitably distributed to me in case of divorce? Seems extremely unfair.

[Not questioning your correctness, just looking for clarification.]


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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Re-date, ED some chicks at UVA.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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So we have a thread complaining about how your credit card classifies an organization that has nothing to do with you nor anything? If "other" bothers you that much and she doesn't eventually divorce you, someone should've told you that people usually do better on their subsequent attempt.

There's your hint, do you see it?


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Wormfather wrote:
Re-date, ED some chicks at UVA.


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Wormfather wrote:
Re-date, ED some chicks at UVA.


:lol:

But in all seriousness, you need to introduce your wife to WLS. It will make her feel silly for not retaking and since the voice of reason will be coming from somewhere other than you (since she isn't willing to listen to you), maybe it will give her the push she needs.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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Dr. Dre wrote:
Wormfather wrote:
Re-date, ED some chicks at UVA.


+1


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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rayiner wrote:
When you tell her "you're not going to get a job from Charlotte School of Law" she's hearing "I don't have faith in your abilities." She doesn't believe you when you tell her most people from Charlotte School of Law won't get jobs as lawyers--that runs counter to the common narrative about law school.

Couch your argument, instead, as about not wanting her to settle. Tell her it's a choice between any old legal career, and a top legal career. Point out how many fancy lawyers went to UNC and how no matter how great you are it always helps to get a head start by going to a brand-name school. Convince her of your faith in her ability to do better and your disappointment in her deciding to settle. Pandering with a touch of guilt is going to get you much further than just laying the facts out.


If your wife needs to be coddled, then I expect her to struggle as an attorney.

Sack up and say it's not happening. If you can't veto spending this much money on something, then that says more about you and your relationship than your wife. It's only going to happen if you allow it to happen. And then don't complain to anyone, especially anyone here.

I mean, can she just go out a buy a home without your consent, too?

You have to pick and choose your battles in a relationship. This is one you should be ready to fight over.

AFTER the fight (and there will be one), talk with her about test-prep courses.

If she struggles so much with the test, then I would encourage that you sign her up for a test-prep course. While many people on these forums feel that it's a waste of money, it will most likely do wonders for your wife (not Kaplan). That way you know that she has done reasonable prep and if she still scores low, then you guys can reevaluate at that time about realistic prospects. Plus if you sign her up and "invest" the course fees into your wife, you might be able to pull off some sick makeup sex.

(Seriously, I highly encourage a test-prep course or a tutor in this case. If she put in effort and stuggled to get a 150, she is not seeing the logic / learning tactics that WILL add points to her score.)


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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Read the first post, chumps. Was posted in July. Pretty sure this fight is long since resolved either way.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlotte School of Law-Cant talk wife out of it
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GatorEagle1 wrote:
It's never a good sign when your law school's website can end in ".org." At least Cooley ends in "edu" and is relatively cheaper.


Worthwhile necro 10/10 would necro again


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