Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby GueritaPeloChino » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:29 pm

mikebag23 wrote:Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.


I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby shredderrrrrr » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:38 pm

GueritaPeloChino wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.


I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.


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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby harryk387 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:50 am

GueritaPeloChino wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.


I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.


Curious as to your "horrible gpa" and lsat score...

I got accepted to southwestern and will be starting there in a few weeks and honestly don't understand all the hate towards the school, yet...i guess

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:51 am

harryk387 wrote:
GueritaPeloChino wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.


I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.


Curious as to your "horrible gpa" and lsat score...

I got accepted to southwestern and will be starting there in a few weeks and honestly don't understand all the hate towards the school, yet...i guess

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby breadbucket » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:05 am

Retake college, ED to Pepperdine.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Jah'rakal » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:08 am

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby rickgrimes69 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:18 am

Jah'rakal wrote:southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states


Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Jah'rakal » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:29 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:
Jah'rakal wrote:southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states


Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore


mostly from personal research brah, i was thinking abt southwestern myself, contacted school, who directed to some of their alums with their own firms, and i looked at the profiles of these firms, pure southwestern grads hired

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby 20130312 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:59 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:
Jah'rakal wrote:southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states


Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore


Anymore?

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby rickgrimes69 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:
Jah'rakal wrote:southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states


Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore


Anymore?


Keep forgetting to press my sarcasm button

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:13 pm

Jah'rakal wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:
Jah'rakal wrote:southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states


Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore


mostly from personal research brah, i was thinking abt southwestern myself, contacted school, who directed to some of their alums with their own firms, and i looked at the profiles of these firms, pure southwestern grads hired

Lolok

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby MikeTZ » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:12 pm

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby TTTehehe » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:43 pm

Do the right thing.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby rickgrimes69 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:42 pm

TTTehehe wrote:Do the right thing.


Quality necro there Spike Lee

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby TTTehehe » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:42 pm

rickgrimes69 wrote:
TTTehehe wrote:Do the right thing.


Quality necro there Spike Lee


lol.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby hunterinc » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:45 am

flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Cobretti » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:48 am

hunterinc wrote:
flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby North » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:54 am

hunterinc wrote:
flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

YOU ARE A GOD DUDE

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DOUBTED YOU

HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN WE WERE IN THE PRESENCE

OF GREATNESS

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby hunterinc » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:55 am

Cobretti wrote:
hunterinc wrote:
flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.


I think his avatar photo was the sole reason...

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Tekrul » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:58 am

I think I joined the boards after this whole thing went down. I'm curious... what happened here?

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:05 am

Congrats on doing well. Still doesn't really change or disprove anything that was said ITT before. Going to these schools is still a terrible idea.

Also, don't alt "slugger."

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby guinness1547 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:08 am

hunterinc wrote:
flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?


I hope you're using that class rank to transfer to a better school.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Nova » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:13 am

Tekrul wrote:I think I joined the boards after this whole thing went down. I'm curious... what happened here?

Everyone told the guy not to attend a TTT and he did it anyway....

Cobretti wrote:
hunterinc wrote:
flem wrote:
mikebag23 wrote:I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school


I'm sure you are, slugger.


UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.


Congrats on your reckless disregard of probabilities tenatively working out.

Sorry the same cant be said for the vast majority of your class.

Good luck with possibly transfering and eventually securing long term, full time, JD required employment.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:23 am

I am genuinely glad that this worked out for the OP (as Nova said, tentatively). But let's not forget that there are countless others in his class who are looking back (or will soon look back) and realize that they made the biggest mistake of their life by going to Whitter/Southwestern. No one- not me, not anyone else- has ever maintained that it is impossible to have success from schools like these. Some people do kill it, transfer out, and have good careers. OP's success really doesn't prove or disprove anything; he's an outlier and beat the odds. But making major investment decisions based on extreme outliers is very irrational, which is why people shouldn't attend these schools. Sure, sometimes 2-7 beats pocket aces, but that doesn't make it a good bet. There are dozens, even hundreds of others in his 1L class who thought they would buck the trend as well, and now they're suffocating under a mountain of debt with virtually no shot at a decent legal job.

Also, lest OP gets too cocky, I know people who transferred from schools of this caliber to my T20. Many of them struck out at OCI. I think transferring to a school like UCLA/USC is the credited move and based on his post history it sounds like that's what he intends to do, but it is by no means a guarantee of anything. OP, your prize for killing it at your TTTT and transferring up may simply be more debt. I don't doubt that you'll find some form of legal employment, but the high-paying jobs that you'll likely need to service your debt may still be hard to come by. I sincerely wish you the best of luck though.

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Re: Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k?

Postby Tekrul » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:28 am

Guess I'm sympathetically happy the guy crushed it, as we're all here to help each other make good choices and succeed. But serving as it does to encourage others looking to make the same choice, I want to say:

Don't take a 150k bet on 3% odds. Worst. Casino. Game. Ever.




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