University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

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androstan
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University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby androstan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:04 am

For those of you who are going into IP, and patent especially, who are considering UNH with money vs. i.e. American and George Mason at sticker, consider the following stats from LawSchoolTransparency:

Jobs requiring bar passage: ~60% for all 3 schools.
Employment Score: ~60% for UNH, ~53% for the other two.
Large Firm Score: ~16% for UNH, ~12% for the other two.
Salaries: Data for AU is really sparse, but for GMU ~26% are making >70k, at UNH ~19% are making >62.5k. I don't know how the cost of living for the two sets of graduates compares.

The one stat that is ugly for UNH is the "non-employed" number, which is 25.2%. It's pretty high for AU also, ~16%, whereas it's only ~3% for GMU. However, if you're looking at money from UNH, you're likely bright enough to get median grades or better, and if you're additionally patent-bar eligible (which is the only reason you'd be seriously considering UNH), unemployment seems a highly unlikely result. Bottom line, if you're looking at big money from UNH and are patent-bar eligible, you should definitely take it over anything outside the T20 (T25?) without big money.

Otoh, if you're stuck in the mid-atlantic and choosing between GMU and AU, there's no question that you should choose GMU. Tuition is cheaper, you might get in-state, and the employment numbers are either comparable or better at GMU.

HTH all those engineer 3.0/166 splitters out there.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby jstr00az » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:37 pm

Why the hell you'd go to law school in this economy if YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ENGINEERING degree is beyond me. Like what this economy really prizes is ANOTHER patent attorney. Sheesh.

If you did well enough in engineering school, go get an engineering degree and save the $150k in opportunity cost plus $100 to $200k in law school debt.

Being a patent attorney fucking sucks anyway.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby Bildungsroman » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:45 pm

androstan wrote:
The one stat that is ugly

Those stats are all ugly.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby androstan » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:09 pm

Some people finish their engineering degree but h8d every minute of it.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby abc12345675 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:11 pm

jstr00az wrote:Why the hell you'd go to law school in this economy if YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ENGINEERING degree is beyond me. Like what this economy really prizes is ANOTHER patent attorney. Sheesh.

If you did well enough in engineering school, go get an engineering degree and save the $150k in opportunity cost plus $100 to $200k in law school debt.

Being a patent attorney fucking sucks anyway.


Yeah one of my best friends in law school HATED being an engineer. He says he'd rather work at Burger King for the rest of his life.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:33 pm

abc12345675 wrote:
jstr00az wrote:Why the hell you'd go to law school in this economy if YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ENGINEERING degree is beyond me. Like what this economy really prizes is ANOTHER patent attorney. Sheesh.

If you did well enough in engineering school, go get an engineering degree and save the $150k in opportunity cost plus $100 to $200k in law school debt.

Being a patent attorney fucking sucks anyway.


Yeah one of my best friends in law school HATED being an engineer. He says he'd rather work at Burger King for the rest of his life.


Depending on the law school, that may be his only option.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:37 pm

abc12345675 wrote:
jstr00az wrote:Why the hell you'd go to law school in this economy if YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ENGINEERING degree is beyond me. Like what this economy really prizes is ANOTHER patent attorney. Sheesh.

If you did well enough in engineering school, go get an engineering degree and save the $150k in opportunity cost plus $100 to $200k in law school debt.

Being a patent attorney fucking sucks anyway.


Yeah one of my best friends in law school HATED being an engineer. He says he'd rather work at Burger King for the rest of his life.




Not to mention that engineering is not as secure as people think...Economy isnt just hurting lawyers.

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Re: University of New Hampshire (formerly Frankling Pierce)

Postby androstan » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:58 pm

RedBirds2011 wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:
jstr00az wrote:Why the hell you'd go to law school in this economy if YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ENGINEERING degree is beyond me. Like what this economy really prizes is ANOTHER patent attorney. Sheesh.

If you did well enough in engineering school, go get an engineering degree and save the $150k in opportunity cost plus $100 to $200k in law school debt.

Being a patent attorney fucking sucks anyway.


Yeah one of my best friends in law school HATED being an engineer. He says he'd rather work at Burger King for the rest of his life.


This is credited. You have to hustle to get co-ops and internships, and have good grades, and you still won't get paid nearly as well as you can in law.

Patent law is a legit alternative for scientists/engineers who possess some combination of: 1) h8 working in their field; and 2) didn't make the grades and/or connections they needed to before graduating to get that first position.

Not to mention that engineering is not as secure as people think...Economy isnt just hurting lawyers.




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