stips are used so that they can get students to come as a result of an incredible price. Then they don't have to pay out to a large percentage of the class for the last two years. The crazy thing is, they often put all the scholly kids in sections together so that a disproportionately high percentage of students will lose their scholarship, thus giving more money to repeat the cycle of luring people in under dubious pretensestimbs4339 wrote:Maybe some sort of paralegal certification or something?bingbang1025 wrote:They need to make the bar exam a lot, lot more difficult. Slash the bottom 50-75 schools. Set up more lienient 1st-year exit programs for people to gracefully GTFO of school if their grades are crap (e.g., refund 50% of tuition or something).I never understood the justification for the stipulations. You're attending a shitty school in one of the worst job markets ever. You need to score in the top 10% just to have a shot at a decent job. Unless people are really just treating law school like a three-year vacation what exactly is the risk that a hardworking, intelligent student will suddenly stop working and voluntarily accept certain unemployment?bingbang1025 wrote:What these TTT schools do is absolutely criminal re: grade stipulations.
They systematically ensure that some of their scholarship students will lose their grants. The school gets to not pay in years 2/3 while keeping the GPA/LSAT inflation that student (likely way above their medians) brought them.
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What I meant to say was I don't understand their official line. What do they tell the students? What would they tell the NY Times if asked? Most undergrad programs and many law schools do not have grade stipulated scholarships.JamMasterJ wrote:stips are used so that they can get students to come as a result of an incredible price. Then they don't have to pay out to a large percentage of the class for the last two years. The crazy thing is, they often put all the scholly kids in sections together so that a disproportionately high percentage of students will lose their scholarship, thus giving more money to repeat the cycle of luring people in under dubious pretensestimbs4339 wrote:Maybe some sort of paralegal certification or something?bingbang1025 wrote:They need to make the bar exam a lot, lot more difficult. Slash the bottom 50-75 schools. Set up more lienient 1st-year exit programs for people to gracefully GTFO of school if their grades are crap (e.g., refund 50% of tuition or something).I never understood the justification for the stipulations. You're attending a shitty school in one of the worst job markets ever. You need to score in the top 10% just to have a shot at a decent job. Unless people are really just treating law school like a three-year vacation what exactly is the risk that a hardworking, intelligent student will suddenly stop working and voluntarily accept certain unemployment?bingbang1025 wrote:What these TTT schools do is absolutely criminal re: grade stipulations.
They systematically ensure that some of their scholarship students will lose their grants. The school gets to not pay in years 2/3 while keeping the GPA/LSAT inflation that student (likely way above their medians) brought them.
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merit scholarships are for attracting (and retaining) "good students." if you don't prove that you're a "good student" (by being in the top x% of your class), you haven't kept your end of the bargain.timbs4339 wrote: What I meant to say was I don't understand their official line. What do they tell the students? What would they tell the NY Times if asked? Most undergrad programs and many law schools do not have grade stipulated scholarships.
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Funny. Do they teach this in contracts?fatduck wrote:merit scholarships are for attracting (and retaining) "good students." if you don't prove that you're a "good student" (by being in the top x% of your class), you haven't kept your end of the bargain.timbs4339 wrote: What I meant to say was I don't understand their official line. What do they tell the students? What would they tell the NY Times if asked? Most undergrad programs and many law schools do not have grade stipulated scholarships.
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I would like to know what happens in 3 years with this person. They probably ended up in a roadside ditch...
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I'm assuming they'll just jump off of the Golden Gate before graduating from it...goldeneye wrote:I would like to know what happens in 3 years with this person. They probably ended up in a roadside ditch...
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Is this like one of those DirectTV commercials?goldeneye wrote:I would like to know what happens in 3 years with this person. They probably ended up in a roadside ditch...
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There's a John Grisham book about this IIRCgoldeneye wrote:Provide them with a guide book on leaving the country and attaining a new identity to avoid debt payments.
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Not get involved in other people's lives. You are not God.abc12345675 wrote:I know someone dumb enough to be considering these options. Won't listen to reason about retaking or not going. How would you deal with this?
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lol seriously?Mr. Pancakes wrote:Not get involved in other people's lives. You are not God.abc12345675 wrote:I know someone dumb enough to be considering these options. Won't listen to reason about retaking or not going. How would you deal with this?
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Yea, I was JKing. Tell people what to do.timbs4339 wrote:lol seriously?Mr. Pancakes wrote:Not get involved in other people's lives. You are not God.abc12345675 wrote:I know someone dumb enough to be considering these options. Won't listen to reason about retaking or not going. How would you deal with this?
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ALPHAMr. Pancakes wrote:Yea, I was JKing. Tell people what to do.timbs4339 wrote:lol seriously?Mr. Pancakes wrote:Not get involved in other people's lives. You are not God.abc12345675 wrote:I know someone dumb enough to be considering these options. Won't listen to reason about retaking or not going. How would you deal with this?
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tell everyone unsolicited exactly how to run their lives and if they do something different deflate their tires while they're sleeping.
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Are you thinking of The Partner?dkb17xzx wrote:There's a John Grisham book about this IIRCgoldeneye wrote:Provide them with a guide book on leaving the country and attaining a new identity to avoid debt payments.
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Going to school for practically nothing is pretty sweet, but your life is pretty much ruined if you lose your scholarship.
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Nah just drop out.SchopenhauerFTW wrote:Going to school for practically nothing is pretty sweet, but your life is pretty much ruined if you lose your scholarship.
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Golden Gate I think.
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