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Wily

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GW's C/O 2011 stats

Post by Wily » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:16 am

I'm curious about why the school I'm considering attending, GW, posted such relatively good numbers (80.7% employed, 8.3% underemployed) for 2011 data on lawschooltransparency, and actually improved over its numbers in 2010 (75.8% employed, 15.6% underemployed). The metric it did drop in was large firm placement, from 27% to 20%.

Could GW be inflating its numbers, or did c/o 2011 actually do better than c/o 2010 somehow, or I am not reading the numbers well? I noticed that other schools have gotten killed with the c/o 2011 data, so GW's improvement seems a little optimistic or suspicious to me.


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Re: GW's C/O 2011 stats

Post by JusticeHarlan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:29 am

Wily wrote:I'm curious about why the school I'm considering attending, GW, posted such relatively good numbers (80.7% employed, 8.3% underemployed) for 2011 data on lawschooltransparency, and actually improved over its numbers in 2010 (75.8% employed, 15.6% underemployed). The metric it did drop in was large firm placement, from 27% to 20%.

Could GW be inflating its numbers, or did c/o 2011 actually do better than c/o 2010 somehow, or I am not reading the numbers well? I noticed that other schools have gotten killed with the c/o 2011 data, so GW's improvement seems a little optimistic or suspicious to me.
Answer to the bolded: probably. If you take out the positions funded by GW itself, the employment rate drops from 80% to about 66%, which is closer to what you'd expect. Source.

There's an ongoing argument about what these positions actually are, but there's no question that they're driving a decent portion of that 80% number.

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Re: GW's C/O 2011 stats

Post by Wily » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:39 am

JusticeHarlan wrote:
Wily wrote:I'm curious about why the school I'm considering attending, GW, posted such relatively good numbers (80.7% employed, 8.3% underemployed) for 2011 data on lawschooltransparency, and actually improved over its numbers in 2010 (75.8% employed, 15.6% underemployed). The metric it did drop in was large firm placement, from 27% to 20%.

Could GW be inflating its numbers, or did c/o 2011 actually do better than c/o 2010 somehow, or I am not reading the numbers well? I noticed that other schools have gotten killed with the c/o 2011 data, so GW's improvement seems a little optimistic or suspicious to me.
Answer to the bolded: probably. If you take out the positions funded by GW itself, the employment rate drops from 80% to about 66%, which is closer to what you'd expect. Source.

There's an ongoing argument about what these positions actually are, but there's no question that they're driving a decent portion of that 80% number.
I see. The % school funded did jump from 5% to 15%, which I just noticed. Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: GW's C/O 2011 stats

Post by GokartMozart315 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:45 pm

wow that big of a drop in large firm placement? that is upsetting...

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