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Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby CBarrowman » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:03 pm

I've been accepted to both Loyola (NO) and Chase Law School. Trouble is, I'm not sure which school is better for Sports and/or Contract Law. I don't have a full scholarship to either so NKU is the right financial choice but I know its not all about finances. Either way I want to be able to practice somewhere in the midwest or southeast.

Please let me know if anyone has some insight, thanks!

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby abc12345675 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:08 pm

CBarrowman wrote:I've been accepted to both Loyola (NO) and Chase Law School. Trouble is, I'm not sure which school is better for Sports and/or Contract Law. I don't have a full scholarship to either so NKU is the right financial choice but I know its not all about finances. Either way I want to be able to practice somewhere in the midwest or southeast.

Please let me know if anyone has some insight, thanks!


You will not do "Sports Law" out of these institutions. Trust me, I spent 3 years of my life trying to do "sports law" even got a minor in it. And what did I learn after internships and talking to people who do it? It doesn't exist. People fall in to it. People handling sports law cases, like the NBA lockout, are attorneys at P Rose. As for agents, there are a handful that are relevant. As for "contract law" I don't understand what you mean. is this a field?

How much debt for each?

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby abc12345675 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:22 pm

On second thought, regardless of the amount of debt you shouldn't go to either of these schools...........I'm sorry to tell you that, but it's really true.

What is your gpa/lsat?

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby RedBirds2011 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:38 pm

CBarrowman wrote:I've been accepted to both Loyola (NO) and Chase Law School. Trouble is, I'm not sure which school is better for Sports and/or Contract Law. I don't have a full scholarship to either so NKU is the right financial choice but I know its not all about finances. Either way I want to be able to practice somewhere in the midwest or southeast.

Please let me know if anyone has some insight, thanks!



What specifically do you mean by southeast? There are a number of states there.

Do not go to loyola unless these criteria are met...

1. You're going at a good price

2. You have ties in New Orleans and you know you want to practice there.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby CBarrowman » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:06 pm

Well I had pretty much decided on loyola because I do have fairly good ties in the area but I'm from Cincinnati and NKU accepted me at a much better price. My GPA is mid to upper percentile but I tested only average at the LSAT.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby 2012JayDee » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:23 pm

How does one find themselves applying to Loyola in New Orleans and a school in Northern Kentucky?

There has to be more to this? Those are both extremely suspect law schools.

Loyola is probably not a bad idea if you plan to stay in Louisiana. Understand that unlike the other 49 states Louisiana (edit) does not follow English common law, as such the bar exam and most of the law schools in the state teach French common law. It's just one of those nuances about the state that you probably wouldn't know at this point but is important to think about. If you take the bar in Louisiana you are likely not going to ever practice outside of the state with pure reciprocity, but will have to take the bar in another state. So the whole practice somewhere else in the southeast thing, will definitely require you to figure out where you're going to practice so you know where to sit for the bar. You also don't want to spend 3 years at a law school that is this regional if you have absolutely no plans to stay and practice. You need to at least be considering practicing in New Orleans. That being said there's only a few law schools in Louisiana and Tulane is arguably the very best of those, and all the others are really just peer institutions, including Loyola.

I don't know what to say about NKU. I had to google it to see what the initials meant. How did you come across this school?

As for the sports law thing. Just get this out of your head. You aren't going to go to a school that will get you into this practice it just won't happen. This isn't people on this forum trying to thwart your dreams this is just real advice about the prospects.

As someone mentioned, (and they are 100% spot on) if you want to work for the NBA you need to be an attorney at Proskeur Rose in NYC. I have a relative that is a VP for NBA relations and he has told me straight out they hire directly from P.Rose. Most of the lawyers they hire are not in sports or entertainment of even IP. They're just lawyers from the firm. Aside from working for a professional or collegiate sports legal office there really isn't sports law outside of a law firm's practice area in which they serve clients that happen to be athletes. If you want to be a sports agent pull all of your apps for law school and enroll in a graduate program that offers sports management, or sports administration, and find out how to get a license to be a sports agent. You'll be in a much better place going down the sports agent path than going down the law path (attending Loyola NO or NKU) and trying to work in sports.

Contract law? Clearly something you heard someone say. Forget you heard this and don't repeat it anymore as a possible legal career. It'll save you odd looks.
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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby Nova » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:07 am

CBarrowman wrote:Well I had pretty much decided on loyola because I do have fairly good ties in the area but I'm from Cincinnati and NKU accepted me at a much better price. My GPA is mid to upper percentile but I tested only average at the LSAT.


Retake in October or dont go.

I don't know what to say about NKU. I had to google it to see what the initials meant. How did you come across this school?


OP is from Cinci. They are not to far from each other.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:41 am

The comments about sports law are right on ITT. I attended a panel of sports lawyers who fell into two camps- 1) people who were collegiate athletes and joined small agencies after law school and eventually transitioned into a lawyer role, 2) folks who went to top schools with no notable athletic background who worked at Proskauer Rose or another firm that represents leagues or teams. The crowd, however, seemed to be composed of people who were just really into fantasy sports.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby abc12345675 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:46 am

OP, I beg you to retake. You said you had an "upper percentile" gpa. If you take a class and do much better on the LSAT your job prospects will go through the roof..........I'm not telling you that you need to go to Columbia. I'm just saying that if you test well enough to go to Ohio State or even Cincy you will be much happier with your life. If you want to live in Louisiana, maybe you can get some money at Tulane. Or even LSU, much better option that Loyola.

Don't rush in to this. Take the LSAT a couple of more times and apply again in a year.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:57 am

abc12345675 wrote:OP, I beg you to retake. You said you had an "upper percentile" gpa. If you take a class and do much better on the LSAT your job prospects will go through the roof..........I'm not telling you that you need to go to Columbia. I'm just saying that if you test well enough to go to Ohio State or even Cincy you will be much happier with your life. If you want to live in Louisiana, maybe you can get some money at Tulane. Or even LSU, much better option that Loyola.

Don't rush in to this. Take the LSAT a couple of more times and apply again in a year.


A lot of this.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby Nova » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:06 am

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:OP, I beg you to retake. You said you had an "upper percentile" gpa. If you take a class and do much better on the LSAT your job prospects will go through the roof..........I'm not telling you that you need to go to Columbia. I'm just saying that if you test well enough to go to Ohio State or even Cincy you will be much happier with your life. If you want to live in Louisiana, maybe you can get some money at Tulane. Or even LSU, much better option that Loyola.

Don't rush in to this. Take the LSAT a couple of more times and apply again in a year.


A lot of this.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby abc12345675 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:10 am

OP, please confirm that you've seen the light. Do not attend these institutions!! At least without a free ride and at least without exhausting your retakes.

Get a job. study your ass off, retake. If you sign up for a class now, you could be ready to take in October again and reapply next cycle.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby cinephile » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:12 am

The only people I know who went to NKU for law school ended up getting hired by their familes, so if you don't have that kind of connection it's not a good bet.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:13 am

abc12345675 wrote:OP, I beg you to retake. You said you had an "upper percentile" gpa. If you take a class and do much better on the LSAT your job prospects will go through the roof..........I'm not telling you that you need to go to Columbia. I'm just saying that if you test well enough to go to Ohio State or even Cincy you will be much happier with your life. If you want to live in Louisiana, maybe you can get some money at Tulane. Or even LSU, much better option that Loyola.

Don't rush in to this. Take the LSAT a couple of more times and apply again in a year.




I agree with most of this, but if OP wants New Orleans, LSU is not a better option than loyola. And go to tulane if you want to work at a bigger firm and/or possibly out of state (they have quite a fair amount who leave new Orleans).

OP, retake to either get scholarship money or to go to a more national school.

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby abc12345675 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:25 pm

Have we lost OP? I'd really like to make sure he understands what everybody has been telling him:

1) These options suck
2) Sports Law is a mirage
3) "Contract law" is not a field
4) He should retake and then reevaluate his options

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Re: Loyola New Orleans or NKU Law

Postby romothesavior » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Nova wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:OP, I beg you to retake. You said you had an "upper percentile" gpa. If you take a class and do much better on the LSAT your job prospects will go through the roof..........I'm not telling you that you need to go to Columbia. I'm just saying that if you test well enough to go to Ohio State or even Cincy you will be much happier with your life. If you want to live in Louisiana, maybe you can get some money at Tulane. Or even LSU, much better option that Loyola.

Don't rush in to this. Take the LSAT a couple of more times and apply again in a year.


A lot of this.

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