Fordham VS UCLA

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Fordham VS UCLA

Postby scram202 » Tue May 29, 2012 5:20 pm

I want to work on the east coast, but I know that UCLA's reputation is far better than Fordham. Where will I have better opportunity for east coast employment at a law firm.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby splitsplat » Tue May 29, 2012 5:23 pm

if you want NY, then fordham. if you want "east coast" it gets harder to tell :|

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby top30man » Tue May 29, 2012 5:25 pm

How much money at each? Unless significantly more at UCLA I'd go fordham. Neither one is worth sticker.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 5:27 pm

have you figured out the COA of each?

Fordham places nearly its entire class on the East Coast. for the class of 2010,
LST wrote:Northeast 1.7%
Mid-Atlantic 85.7%
East North Central 0.9%
West North Central 0.2%
South Atlantic 4.1%
East South Central 0.2%
West South Central 0.4%
Mountain 0.9%
Pacific 2.2%
U.S. Territory 0%
Foreign Employed 2.2%
Unknown Region 1.5%
100%


Here is UCLA's placement for the class of 2010:
LST wrote:Northeast 0%
Mid-Atlantic 6.5%
East North Central 0%
West North Central 0%
South Atlantic 7.1%
East South Central 0.3%
West South Central 0.3%
Mountain 2.2%
Pacific 81.1%
U.S. Territory 0%
Foreign Employed 2.2%
Unknown Region 0.3%
100%

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby scram202 » Tue May 29, 2012 5:37 pm

Money is not the issue here. Both are at sticker, and I have the ability to pay for both. I see those statistics on UCLA job placement, with that being said, much of that is skewed because most UCLA grads want to stay on the west coast. Does the ranking difference and prestige difference of UCLA vs Fordham matter for a NYC, Boston, or DC firm when they look to hire, or do Fordham's relationships with NYC firms and other firms on the east coast outweigh the rankings difference between the two.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby tedalbany » Tue May 29, 2012 5:42 pm

scram202 wrote:Money is not the issue here. Both are at sticker, and I have the ability to pay for both. I see those statistics on UCLA job placement, with that being said, much of that is skewed because most UCLA grads want to stay on the west coast. Does the ranking difference and prestige difference of UCLA vs Fordham matter for a NYC, Boston, or DC firm when they look to hire, or do Fordham's relationships with NYC firms and other firms on the east coast outweigh the rankings difference between the two.


If you want NYC go to Fordham, if you want LA go to UCLA. It isn't rocket science, rankings aren't that important when it comes to regional schools.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 5:42 pm

Fordham OCI (2008): NY Law firms 129/ DC Law firms 25/ CA Law Firms 48

UCLA OCI (2008): NY Law firms 50/ DC Law firms 22/ CA Law Firms 176

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby tedalbany » Tue May 29, 2012 5:43 pm

Nova wrote:Fordham OCI (2008): NY Law firms 129/ DC Law firms 25/ CA Law Firms 48

UCLA OCI (2008): NY Law firms 50/ DC Law firms 22/ CA Law Firms 176


2008 OCI is in no way relevant.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby scram202 » Tue May 29, 2012 5:46 pm

Different Question.... sorry if I am no where near as educated on this stuff as some of you other posters on here. If I was planning on attempting to transfer up to a better law school after 1L .... Figure top 7 for sake of argument... would being at a "better" school like UCLA matter as far as my application is concerned. Dont start lecturing me on how I need to be in the top 5% etc, etc, I know all of that, I am just curious on peoples toughts if it would make a difference if I was in that upper echelon.??

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby Nova » Tue May 29, 2012 5:47 pm

tedalbany wrote:
Nova wrote:Fordham OCI (2008): NY Law firms 129/ DC Law firms 25/ CA Law Firms 48

UCLA OCI (2008): NY Law firms 50/ DC Law firms 22/ CA Law Firms 176


2008 OCI is in no way relevant.


Whatever bro bro. Fordham has nearly 3 times as many NY Firms than CA Firms at OCI. UCLA has over 3 times as many CA Firms than NY Firms. That is the point.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby JCFindley » Tue May 29, 2012 6:02 pm

scram202 wrote:Different Question.... sorry if I am no where near as educated on this stuff as some of you other posters on here. If I was planning on attempting to transfer up to a better law school after 1L .... Figure top 7 for sake of argument... would being at a "better" school like UCLA matter as far as my application is concerned. Dont start lecturing me on how I need to be in the top 5% etc, etc, I know all of that, I am just curious on peoples toughts if it would make a difference if I was in that upper echelon.??


No..... But don't bet on transferring....

UCLA is a good school but it IS a regional (plus) school period. Its rank will NOT help you get a job on the east coast and its location can hurt you in doing so. Frankly, Fordham's reputation and alumni network in NYC will trump UCLA all day every day in helping you get a job there.... In Boston or DC or Philly you are still close in NYC and you can network a lot easier......

For the East Coast Fordham would be the clear answer....

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby dingbat » Tue May 29, 2012 10:08 pm

scram202 wrote:I want to work on the east coast, but I know that UCLA's reputation is far better on the west coast than Fordham. Where will I have better opportunity for east coast employment at a law firm.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby answer23 » Wed May 30, 2012 11:55 am

Take UCLA. National firms will dig deeper into UCLA 's class. You will have a greater chance of getting big law from UCLA. You can always lateral back to NYC.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby MormonChristian » Thu May 31, 2012 3:01 pm

scram202 wrote:I want to work on the east coast, but I know that UCLA's reputation is far better than Fordham. Where will I have better opportunity for east coast employment at a law firm.



Once you spend a few years in Cali, you won't want to go back to the East Coast.

You'll despise the East Coast "hurry up and wait" attitude.

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Re: Fordham VS UCLA

Postby MrShneebly » Thu May 31, 2012 10:35 pm

MormonChristian wrote:
scram202 wrote:I want to work on the east coast, but I know that UCLA's reputation is far better than Fordham. Where will I have better opportunity for east coast employment at a law firm.



Once you spend a few years in Cali, you won't want to go back to the East Coast.

You'll despise the East Coast "hurry up and wait" attitude.

Pardon?




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