BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

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UC Davis $29k/year vs. UMN $15k/year

Poll ended at Wed May 30, 2012 6:11 pm

UC Davis #29 ($29k/year Aid) ~$40,000 debt on graduation
29
91%
UMN #19 ($15k/year) ~$75,000 debt on graduation
3
9%
 
Total votes: 32

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BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Fri May 25, 2012 6:11 pm

I have to make this decision by the end of the day! :(

Currently looking at a $15k/year scholarship to the University of Minnesota (#19), and $29,000/year to UC Davis (#29). I want to end up in either CA or DC, and am looking at IP law almost exclusively.

Also, transferring is definitely something I'm looking to explore and thus have put a bit of weight toward rankings.

Any thoughts?

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby TomahawkChopper » Fri May 25, 2012 8:27 pm

So you want to end up in CA or DC but are considering a law school in Minnesota?

Good luck with that one homie.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby ocajavati » Fri May 25, 2012 8:30 pm

This is really a no brainer.

UC Davis by a long shot. Cheaper and you want Cali.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri May 25, 2012 8:38 pm

UC-Davis.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nova » Sat May 26, 2012 12:39 am

Despite rankings, UCD and UMN are basically peers. You want Cali and UCD is more affordable. It seems like UCD is the easy answer....

Although, if you end up in my section next year at UMN, I will be nice to you.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby top30man » Sat May 26, 2012 12:48 am

ocajavati wrote:This is really a no brainer.

UC Davis by a long shot. Cheaper and you want Cali.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby MrAnon » Sat May 26, 2012 1:04 am

Good luck with your exploration of transferring. 95% chance you won't get the opportunity.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Sat May 26, 2012 4:24 pm

I definitely appreciate the feedback, and do understand the region-specific factor in both of these schools. One other variable is "BigLaw" which is 10%-20% possible out of UMN, but considerably less out of UC Davis.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby bk1 » Sat May 26, 2012 6:14 pm

Nammertat wrote:I definitely appreciate the feedback, and do understand the region-specific factor in both of these schools. One other variable is "BigLaw" which is 10%-20% possible out of UMN, but considerably less out of UC Davis.


Oh you mean the thing that likely won't happen coming out of either school? And have you looked at the NLJ numbers for both schools? They were within several percent of each other for the past several years (and UCD wasn't always behind UMN).

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Sun May 27, 2012 9:54 am

bk1 wrote:
Nammertat wrote:I definitely appreciate the feedback, and do understand the region-specific factor in both of these schools. One other variable is "BigLaw" which is 10%-20% possible out of UMN, but considerably less out of UC Davis.


Oh you mean the thing that likely won't happen coming out of either school? And have you looked at the NLJ numbers for both schools? They were within several percent of each other for the past several years (and UCD wasn't always behind UMN).


Yeah I did look at that data and agree its not a likely scenario, but I definitely don't want to limit options. Also, I fear that Davis would basically destroy any chance of going to dc...

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby bk1 » Sun May 27, 2012 10:52 am

Nammertat wrote:Yeah I did look at that data and agree its not a likely scenario, but I definitely don't want to limit options. Also, I fear that Davis would basically destroy any chance of going to dc...


UMN also destroys pretty much any chance of DC. Both schools equally limit your options. One limits it to MN and the other limits it to CA.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Mon May 28, 2012 2:20 pm

I'm leaning toward Davis, its just tough to give up ten ranking spots in this job market. I suppose having half the debt will make me feel better in the long run.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby gabewatch » Mon May 28, 2012 2:26 pm

The ranking b/w UMN and Davis should not be a factor in this decision.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nova » Mon May 28, 2012 2:28 pm

The poll is 19-1 for a reason. UMN isnt going to get you Cali. Neither will set you up for DC. UCD would be TCR even if the scholarships were the same. You are reading to much into the rankings, bro.
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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Mon May 28, 2012 2:29 pm

Nova wrote:The poll is 18-1 for a reason. UMN isnt going to get you Cali. Neither will set you up for DC. UCD would be TCR even if the scholarships were the same. You are reading to much into the rankings, bro.


Agreed.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby tedalbany » Mon May 28, 2012 2:33 pm

Nammertat wrote:I'm leaning toward Davis, its just tough to give up ten ranking spots in this job market. I suppose having half the debt will make me feel better in the long run.


Emphasis on ranking number for peer schools is fucking retarded. HTH.

(If you want to work in CA, and UC-D is cheaper, then go to UC-D)

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby minnbills » Mon May 28, 2012 5:45 pm

Not sure it's as cut and dry as people are making it ITT.

For one, MN has a strong IP market and assuming OP has a suitable degree, his/her chances at a market paying job won't be typical.

OP, if you're set on CA or DC right away then yes, Davis is TCR. But if you're willing to work in MN at first I think UMN could be a good option. Plus, if you have connections to CA (which it sounds like you do) it will be easier for you to come back right away than it would be for someone without those ties.

Hope it's not a moot point yet given the "end of day" thing too. In any event, good luck.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Mon May 28, 2012 6:19 pm

minnbills wrote:Not sure it's as cut and dry as people are making it ITT.

For one, MN has a strong IP market and assuming OP has a suitable degree, his/her chances at a market paying job won't be typical.

OP, if you're set on CA or DC right away then yes, Davis is TCR. But if you're willing to work in MN at first I think UMN could be a good option. Plus, if you have connections to CA (which it sounds like you do) it will be easier for you to come back right away than it would be for someone without those ties.

Hope it's not a moot point yet given the "end of day" thing too. In any event, good luck.


That is really where the choice starts to become obvious. I would have no intention of staying in mn any longer than necessary. I think uc Davis is the choice.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby minnbills » Mon May 28, 2012 8:47 pm

Yeah if you're really opposed to being there then UC it is.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Tue May 29, 2012 7:40 pm

Sorry for deliberating over what is obviously seen as a clear choice. Decision made today, withdrew from UMN (and others). Very ready to head out for California!

Thanks all-

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby MormonChristian » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:35 pm

Nammertat wrote:Sorry for deliberating over what is obviously seen as a clear choice. Decision made today, withdrew from UMN (and others). Very ready to head out for California!

Thanks all-



There is no other waitlist for you?

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:48 pm

MormonChristian wrote:
Nammertat wrote:Sorry for deliberating over what is obviously seen as a clear choice. Decision made today, withdrew from UMN (and others). Very ready to head out for California!

Thanks all-



There is no other waitlist for you?


I'm WL @ Penn/UVA, and will obviously ride them out accordingly. Trying to proceed as if they're not an option until they are.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby splitsplat » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:15 pm

4.0 and 159? smh :|

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby Nammertat » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:38 pm

splitsplat wrote:4.0 and 159? smh :|


Lol I know! I completely choked. Retaing in ten days, so if I get anywhere near my practice tests I'll be postponing a year.

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Re: BIG Dilemma.... UMN vs UC Davis

Postby splitsplat » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:43 pm

good luck then, you should really sit out a year. you could get full rides to schools much better than umn or ucd if you could score higher




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