Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

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Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby sksusa » Thu May 17, 2012 3:10 pm

Hey so I am from the Tampa area and I have been accepted to both schools. I know Stetson is the better school but I am torn on which to choose because I am factoring in certain details.

Stetson:
It is a tier 3 law school.
The school itself was much more impressive than Nova. Better professors, more social events, etc.
I do not like the location and I don't want to get stuck practicing law in the Tampa area, although I do have a few readily available connections in the area.
The attrition rate is about 4%

Nova:
It is tier 4.
The law school is just one building and seems dominated by the latin community. I was not very impressed with the school itself nor our tour guide.
I absolutely love South Florida and I want to live and practice law in Miami.
I received an $18,000 scholarship from Nova but the attrition rate is about 23% which makes me nervous.


Overall, I have no idea which school to choose and any advice would help. Should I go for the better, more expensive school in a bad location or the cheaper tier 4 school in the location I plan on staying at?

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby northwood » Thu May 17, 2012 3:11 pm

stetson i suppose

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Birdnals » Thu May 17, 2012 3:17 pm

At the top of your screen there is a link to search the forums. Search both those law schools, and read what people have to say about them. If you have any questions you need clearing up after reading some of the replies ask them in this topic you started.

Be forewarned, neither of those schools will be receive very positive reviews.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Nova » Thu May 17, 2012 3:21 pm

Retake or dont go. GPA/LSAT?

Stetson at sticker is not worth it. 35k a yr in tuition is not worth the 60% chance of finding full time legal work.

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Nova is a joke. Less that 50% chance of full time legal employment

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If you really want Miami, Score 160 and go to Miami, at least. Really though, Miami at sticker is not a good deal either...

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby flem » Thu May 17, 2012 3:41 pm

Retake or don't go unless someone else is paying 'dem bills at Stetson.

Also what's the stip on that Nova scholarship?

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby rad lulz » Thu May 17, 2012 4:00 pm

flem wrote:Retake or don't go unless someone else is paying 'dem bills at Stetson.

This. Bad job prospects.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby sksusa » Thu May 17, 2012 4:07 pm

3.2/155

For Nova scholarship you have to maintain 2.8 GPA. If it drops between 2.7-2.6 they take away $5,000. Anything below 2.6 you lose the scholarship. I am currently wait listed at University of Miami. I have sent letters of continued interest and my transcript showing my grades the last two semesters of college (I just graduated). And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ruxin1 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:08 pm

sksusa wrote:3.2/155

For Nova scholarship you have to maintain 2.8 GPA. If it drops between 2.7-2.6 they take away $5,000. Anything below 2.6 you lose the scholarship. I am currently wait listed at University of Miami. I have sent letters of continued interest and my transcript showing my grades the last two semesters of college (I just graduated). And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.


Then retake and ED UVA

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Nova » Thu May 17, 2012 4:10 pm

sksusa wrote:3.2/155

And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.



Retake anyway.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby rad lulz » Thu May 17, 2012 4:18 pm

sksusa wrote:3.2/155

For Nova scholarship you have to maintain 2.8 GPA. If it drops between 2.7-2.6 they take away $5,000. Anything below 2.6 you lose the scholarship. I am currently wait listed at University of Miami. I have sent letters of continued interest and my transcript showing my grades the last two semesters of college (I just graduated). And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.

I'd still retake if you want a job.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ludo! » Thu May 17, 2012 4:22 pm

rad lulz wrote:
sksusa wrote:3.2/155

For Nova scholarship you have to maintain 2.8 GPA. If it drops between 2.7-2.6 they take away $5,000. Anything below 2.6 you lose the scholarship. I am currently wait listed at University of Miami. I have sent letters of continued interest and my transcript showing my grades the last two semesters of college (I just graduated). And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.

I'd still retake if you want a job.


+1. Unless you meant they will continue paying the bills for the rest of your life.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby flem » Thu May 17, 2012 4:24 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
sksusa wrote:3.2/155

For Nova scholarship you have to maintain 2.8 GPA. If it drops between 2.7-2.6 they take away $5,000. Anything below 2.6 you lose the scholarship. I am currently wait listed at University of Miami. I have sent letters of continued interest and my transcript showing my grades the last two semesters of college (I just graduated). And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.

I'd still retake if you want a job.


+1. Unless you meant they will continue paying the bills for the rest of your life.


All of these

At least shoot for UF/FSU if you want Florida bro. Hit a 161+ and enjoy either one of those.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby BearsGrl » Thu May 17, 2012 4:31 pm

Stetson. I've been to both Nova and Stetson. Stetson has a solid reputation within the state of FL. Choose it over Nova. It won't keep you tied to Tampa.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ludo! » Thu May 17, 2012 4:35 pm

Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ruxin1 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:36 pm

BearsGrl wrote:Stetson. I've been to both Nova and Stetson. Stetson has a solid reputation within the state of FL. Choose it over Nova. It won't keep you tied to Tampa.


Solid reputation does not mean employment. Florida's market is in shambles and you are competing against a ton of natives that go T14/Vandy/Emory

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ludo! » Thu May 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Stetson. I've been to both Nova and Stetson. Stetson has a solid reputation within the state of FL. Choose it over Nova. It won't keep you tied to Tampa.


Solid reputation does not mean employment. Florida's market is in shambles and you are competing against a ton of natives that go T14/Vandy/Emory


But have you been there? You cannot comment on a school's employment prospects unless you have physically been there. The ABA data showing that less than 60% of Stetson graduates got full time legal jobs was before BearsGrl visited, so that's irrelevant.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby top30man » Thu May 17, 2012 4:40 pm

Nova wrote:
sksusa wrote:3.2/155

And yes family will be paying the bills for anywhere I choose to go.



Retake anyway.

You have an incredible opportunity with parents that will pay tuition. Don't squander it on a TTT. Retake and at least go to UF or FSU.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby BearsGrl » Thu May 17, 2012 4:42 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.


I'll refer you to the FL AG who is a part of bringing down the health care mandate. I'd be surprised if the mandate stays. It's possible, but I'm leaning towards parts or all of the law being struck-down.

Stetson is one of those schools that people in FL tend to think of with respect. Both schools have different draws. One is attached to a campus setting, the other is a stand-alone building. Stetson's UG and law school are separate from one another. And in terms of overall FL schools I'd put it at #3. If the individual is local and won't have high relocation costs, it's "smart" to stay local as the school has a solid reputation.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ludo! » Thu May 17, 2012 4:43 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.


I'll refer you to the FL AG who is a part of bringing down the health care mandate. I'd be surprised if the mandate stays. It's possible, but I'm leaning towards parts or all of the law being struck-down.

Stetson is one of those schools that people in FL tend to think of with respect. Both schools have different draws. One is attached to a campus setting, the other is a stand-alone building. Stetson's UG and law school are separate from one another. And in terms of overall FL schools I'd put it at #3. If the individual is local and won't have high relocation costs, it's "smart" to stay local as the school has a solid reputation.


Oh yeah I forgot that the other way to judge a school besides visiting is to provide an anecdote of one successful graduate.

Question - are you friends with the AG on Facebook and how happy does she look in her vacation photos?

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Mal Reynolds » Thu May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Bearsgrl is back. Wanted to be here for nude pics.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby BearsGrl » Thu May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Stetson. I've been to both Nova and Stetson. Stetson has a solid reputation within the state of FL. Choose it over Nova. It won't keep you tied to Tampa.


Solid reputation does not mean employment. Florida's market is in shambles and you are competing against a ton of natives that go T14/Vandy/Emory


Florida's market isn't in the desperate shambles that gets talked about on TLS. Too much concern-trolling. And I'd say that overall, TLS isn't the community that would know a school such as Stetson.

General caution is always warranted, but not the current concern shown.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ruxin1 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:46 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.


I'll refer you to the FL AG who is a part of bringing down the health care mandate. I'd be surprised if the mandate stays. It's possible, but I'm leaning towards parts or all of the law being struck-down.

Stetson is one of those schools that people in FL tend to think of with respect. Both schools have different draws. One is attached to a campus setting, the other is a stand-alone building. Stetson's UG and law school are separate from one another. And in terms of overall FL schools I'd put it at #3. If the individual is local and won't have high relocation costs, it's "smart" to stay local as the school has a solid reputation.


Even TTTT schools have successfuly alumni, that graduated pre .com bubble pre great recession. Hell even the #1 in class is gonna land big law. But with Stetson if you aren't at the tip top of your class you are in a poor employment situation. Stetson is not the 3rd best school in FL; and regardless jobs will be going to it is T14/Vandy >>> Emory >> FL/FSU >> Miami >>>> doesn't matter

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby Ruxin1 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:47 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
Ruxin1 wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Stetson. I've been to both Nova and Stetson. Stetson has a solid reputation within the state of FL. Choose it over Nova. It won't keep you tied to Tampa.


Solid reputation does not mean employment. Florida's market is in shambles and you are competing against a ton of natives that go T14/Vandy/Emory


Florida's market isn't in the desperate shambles that gets talked about on TLS. Too much concern-trolling. And I'd say that overall, TLS isn't the community that would know a school such as Stetson.

General caution is always warranted, but not the current concern shown.


How many SA's is GT and HK taking this and last summer, some nalp directory information/education would do you some good.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby top30man » Thu May 17, 2012 4:49 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.


I'll refer you to the FL AG who is a part of bringing down the health care mandate. I'd be surprised if the mandate stays. It's possible, but I'm leaning towards parts or all of the law being struck-down.

Stetson is one of those schools that people in FL tend to think of with respect. Both schools have different draws. One is attached to a campus setting, the other is a stand-alone building. Stetson's UG and law school are separate from one another. And in terms of overall FL schools I'd put it at #3. If the individual is local and won't have high relocation costs, it's "smart" to stay local as the school has a solid reputation.


Oh yeah I forgot that the other way to judge a school besides visiting is to provide an anecdote of one successful graduate.

Question - are you friends with the AG on Facebook and how happy does she look in her vacation photos?

Being the third best school in Florida does not equal a good choice. That's really debatable anyway. The data disagrees with you that Stetson could ever be a good choice at sticker.
Also, lol at a standalone building being a "draw" to choose a school. What is that even supposed to mean? Worth the 30k as long as there's no other building around.

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Re: Nova Southeastern v. Stetson???

Postby BearsGrl » Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:Oh I take my +1 back. I didn't realize that BearsGrl has been to Stetson. Clearly that changes everything.


I'll refer you to the FL AG who is a part of bringing down the health care mandate. I'd be surprised if the mandate stays. It's possible, but I'm leaning towards parts or all of the law being struck-down.

Stetson is one of those schools that people in FL tend to think of with respect. Both schools have different draws. One is attached to a campus setting, the other is a stand-alone building. Stetson's UG and law school are separate from one another. And in terms of overall FL schools I'd put it at #3. If the individual is local and won't have high relocation costs, it's "smart" to stay local as the school has a solid reputation.


Oh yeah I forgot that the other way to judge a school besides visiting is to provide an anecdote of one successful graduate.

Question - are you friends with the AG on Facebook and how happy does she look in her vacation photos?


I think you said that you worked/interview in Chitown. Why in the world would you talk about non-Chitown markets? Have you physically been to the school? I have. I think TLS is concerned too much with people that want to get into NY, Chi and LA markets. Not everyone wants those markets. If OP is trying to transfer Stetson within Florida, then fine. If OP is trying to transfer Stetson to outside of Florida markets, then not as easy to transfer with the initial job. That doesn't change the fact that Stetson is a solid enough school that will set you up for opportunities.




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