danquayle wrote:SaintFond wrote:danquayle wrote:rayiner wrote:Hiring managers all know T-14. They use "top 10 or 15 schools" as code to avoid sounding like they know, but I've seen them slip.
Anyway, look at my UN-employment ranking for 2011: over half unemployed or underemployed at USC, versus 30% at Mich and 25% at NU. That's what we call a drop-off.
Seriously, why wouldn't they just say T-14? What do they care?
They have to pretend it's not all a prestige whoring game.
Ok, so why say "top 10 or 15 schools" then? Isn't a requiring a top 10 school or top 15 inherently also about prestige whoring? Isn't asking for ANY "top" school prestige whoring? I don't see why asking for a t-14 school all of a sudden makes it prestige whoring, but asking for a t-10 school wouldn't be.
And do you really think law firms care about being perceived as prestige hungry? I think they're rather explicit about that.
In other words, I don't think law firms are being cutesy when saying things like top 15. Chances are there is some regional bias. So a firm in LA might include USC and UCLA in it's "top 15" but not Georgetown. To the extent partners do know about the T-14, I'm not convinced they see it as a stark "in/out" proposition.
But I'm not saying the term has no credibility... indeed I think the T-14 basically means the schools that are almost universally considered Elite regardless of geographical interests. But every firm/company is going to have geographic biases to factor in as well.