Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

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Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby ssanders » Fri May 04, 2012 9:47 pm

I know Whittier has an established program, but I can't seem to find any decent information about how IP is covered at Chapman. I spoke with someone there and they said it is included with their Entertainment Law focus, but they will have a professor call me and fill me in with any questions...

...until then though, I'd love to hear any personal experiences people have in regards to their IP focus at either school.

Thanks!

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby drmguy » Fri May 04, 2012 9:54 pm

You should really take a look at the employment threads.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby rad lulz » Fri May 04, 2012 9:55 pm

Retake or don't go.

Shitty employment outcomes.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby Ludo! » Fri May 04, 2012 9:57 pm

Whittier doesn't have any established programs in anything, they are a barely accredited shit hole. Do not pick a law school based on any specialty programs or "IP focus." Your sole concern should be job prospects and those are horrendous at both of these schools (but Whitter is the worse of the two). Retake the LSAT and reapply aiming for schools with a better likelihood of actually getting you a job in IP

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 9:59 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:Whittier doesn't have any established programs in anything, they are a barely accredited shit hole. Do not pick a law school based on any specialty programs or "IP focus." Your sole concern should be job prospects and those are horrendous at both of these schools (but Whitter is the worse of the two). Retake the LSAT and reapply aiming for schools with a better likelihood of actually getting you a job in IP


Your second statement isn't true. That is all.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby drmguy » Fri May 04, 2012 10:03 pm

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby ssanders » Fri May 04, 2012 10:05 pm

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

That aside, though, my brother went to Whittier Law school and is doing fantastic now at a small local firm (he recently became partner). I happen to like the people/campus there as well. Chapman is nice too.

In the end, Whittier offered me a bit of a scholarship, so that makes me more inclined to go that route, but Chapman is obviously a bit higher in the ranking... just not sure of what they have for people interested in technology/IP.

With that said -- I appreciate the reality check, but I really feel confident in myself.... enough to wager a decent chunk of change on it. So... aside from brimstone, any thoughts? =P

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 10:06 pm

drmguy wrote:I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.


Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby tedalbany » Fri May 04, 2012 10:07 pm

ssanders wrote:Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.


Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby tedalbany » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
drmguy wrote:I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.


Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.


Stop giving advice. If even one person listens to you, that's one ruined life on your conscience.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby Ludo! » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
drmguy wrote:I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.


Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.


Oh look more anecdotal evidence from BearsGrl! Wow you know ONE Chapman graduate who's doing fine. I guess OP should go there then because of those stats. 100% of graduates known by BearsGrl are now employed! I'm surprised that's not in Chapman's brochure

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby 071816 » Fri May 04, 2012 10:10 pm

ssanders wrote:Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby drmguy » Fri May 04, 2012 10:11 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
drmguy wrote:I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.


Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.


You have to be kidding me.

Rags to Riches Billionaires

If only I was aware that the key to being a billionaire was being poor.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby Ludo! » Fri May 04, 2012 10:11 pm

ssanders wrote:Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

That aside, though, my brother went to Whittier Law school and is doing fantastic now at a small local firm (he recently became partner). I happen to like the people/campus there as well. Chapman is nice too.

In the end, Whittier offered me a bit of a scholarship, so that makes me more inclined to go that route, but Chapman is obviously a bit higher in the ranking... just not sure of what they have for people interested in technology/IP.

With that said -- I appreciate the reality check, but I really feel confident in myself.... enough to wager a decent chunk of change on it. So... aside from brimstone, any thoughts? =P


You should be worried about employment prospects. That should be the only thing you are worried about. Unless your brother, or somebody else you know, is 100% able to offer you a job at graduation then both of these schools are horrible decisions.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 10:12 pm

tedalbany wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:
drmguy wrote:I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.


Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.


Stop giving advice. If even one person listens to you, that's one ruined life on your conscience.


Please state where I gave advice.

I didn't know that people could listen on the net. I thought people read words on the net. My bad.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby 071816 » Fri May 04, 2012 10:12 pm

Here we go...

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 10:13 pm

Deleted - Not worth it.
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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby drmguy » Fri May 04, 2012 10:14 pm

It's kind of tragic that most people would read this thread and think that we are all trolling.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby tedalbany » Fri May 04, 2012 10:15 pm

BearsGrl wrote:Deleted - Not worth it.


Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby rad lulz » Fri May 04, 2012 10:15 pm

tedalbany wrote:
ssanders wrote:Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.


Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

She is:

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 10:16 pm

tedalbany wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Deleted - Not worth it.


Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?


I deleted my post, hence not worth it. But do go on.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby BearsGrl » Fri May 04, 2012 10:17 pm

rad lulz wrote:
tedalbany wrote:
ssanders wrote:Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.


Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

She is:

Image


You know that OP is a she?

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby tedalbany » Fri May 04, 2012 10:18 pm

BearsGrl wrote:
tedalbany wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Deleted - Not worth it.


Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?


I deleted my post, hence not worth it. But do go on.


No, you put your post embedded in the quote, realized this confirms everyone's sneaking suspicion that you don't know how to internet, got embarrassed, then quickly edited it while still maintaining an odd sense of smug superiority

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby bigeast03 » Fri May 04, 2012 10:18 pm

OP- They don't have information on IP because they placed 15 students in firms with more than 25 lawyers in 2010. You can't really do IP as a solo practitioner.

Either option is a terrible financial decision, regardless of cost and debt outlook. Please don't go to either. Retake/reapply if you truly want to do IP law. Find a job and forget law school if you don't want to retake.

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Re: Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property

Postby rayiner » Fri May 04, 2012 10:20 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:
Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.


Oh look more anecdotal evidence from BearsGrl! Wow you know ONE Chapman graduate who's doing fine. I guess OP should go there then because of those stats. 100% of graduates known by BearsGrl are now employed! I'm surprised that's not in Chapman's brochure


People don't go to shitty schools because of their great analytical reasoning skills.




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