Final decision - the more opinions the better

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Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby swishin and dishin » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:22 am

Thanks for all of the help in the past, and I feel confident I am down to the right two at this point. My final decision will be between Fordham w 30k and brooklyn w full and 5k each year. I'm sure it is easy to tell I want to practice in the NYC market, and at this point money and job stability are the two main factors driving my decision.
At this point I am leaning towards Fordham but I want to be sure that a 60k investment over Brooklyn is worth it.
Thanks so much everyone!

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby dingbat » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:53 am

swishin and dishin wrote:Thanks for all of the help in the past, and I feel confident I am down to the right two at this point. My final decision will be between Fordham w 30k and brooklyn w full and 5k each year. I'm sure it is easy to tell I want to practice in the NYC market, and at this point money and job stability are the two main factors driving my decision.
At this point I am leaning towards Fordham but I want to be sure that a 60k investment over Brooklyn is worth it.
Thanks so much everyone!

Do you mean $30k per year or $30k total?
If you're getting $30k per year, go to Fordham; if $30k total go to Brooklyn

That is general advice; your personal circumstances might warrant a different response

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby swishin and dishin » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:02 am

90k total, 30k each year at Fordham

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby dingbat » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:05 am

That's what I thought.
Go to Fordham, unless your long term goals require minimal debt (eg PI - and even that could be covered by LRAP)

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby Tadatsune » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:10 am

swishin and dishin wrote:90k total, 30k each year at Fordham


Fordham is the easy choice here. Have fun.

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby swishin and dishin » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:57 pm

I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby dingbat » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:30 pm

swishin and dishin wrote:I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

Fordham is definitely a better school and at $30k per year is a very good offer.

Here's some comparisons, based on 2010 employment data (and assuming graduates who don't report are unemployed)

................................................................Brooklyn.............Fordham
Working for law firms of 50+ attorneys:................17.9%................35.6%
Judicial Clerkship...........................................6.8%.................12.4%
Public Interest...............................................6.2%.................12.7%
Unemployed or unreported...............................14.5%..................7.8%

So at Fordham you're nearly doubling your chances of working for a law firm, doing PI, or clerking, the three most desirable outcomes for a law degree, while halving your chances of being unemployed.

Note: this is an incomplete picture of employment prospects. However, these are the best metrics to use.

For a different perspective, the NLJ250 lists give the following:

.....................Brooklyn...............Fordham
2012..............6.59%..................19.58%
2011..............N/A (<10.57%)........25.68%
2010..............N/A (<13.2%)..........29.4%
This trend continues:
2006..............10%......................34% (oldest I found, but I stopped looking)

Now tell me what price difference you think would make Brooklyn more attractive than Fordham.
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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby emkay625 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:31 pm

I would pick Fordham.

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby Geon » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:43 pm

dingbat wrote:
swishin and dishin wrote:I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

Fordham is definitely a better school and at $30k per year is a very good offer.

Here's some comparisons, based on 2010 employment data (and assuming graduates who don't report are unemployed)

................................................................Brooklyn.............Fordham
Working for law firms of 50+ attorneys:................17.9%................35.6%
Judicial Clerkship...........................................6.8%.................12.4%
Public Interest...............................................6.2%.................12.7%
Unemployed or unreported...............................14.5%..................7.8%

So at Fordham you're nearly doubling your chances of working for a law firm, doing PI, or clerking, the three most desirable outcomes for a law degree, while halving your chances of being unemployed.

Note: this is an incomplete picture of employment prospects. However, these are the best metrics to use.

For a different perspective, the NLJ250 lists give the following:

.....................Brooklyn...............Fordham
2012..............6.59%..................19.58%
2011..............N/A (<10.57%)........25.68%
2010..............N/A (<13.2%)..........29.4%
This trend continues:
2006..............10%......................34% (oldest I found, but I stopped looking)

Now tell me what price difference you think would make Brooklyn more attractive than Fordham.


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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby dingbat » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:12 pm

Geon wrote:Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby thelawyler » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:35 pm

Fordham here.

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby Nova » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:47 am

emkay625 wrote:I would pick Fordham.


+1

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby Geon » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:17 pm

dingbat wrote:
Geon wrote:Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

I meant to say your smart :o

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Re: Final decision - the more opinions the better

Postby dingbat » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:16 pm

Geon wrote:
dingbat wrote:
Geon wrote:Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

I meant to say your smart :o

Well then, thank you very much. (I think)




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