JoeMo wrote:Incubateus wrote:I'm pretty sure that the full Pm read something like this:
Do me a favor and stop responding with douche bag remarks, I'm actually trying to get information from people who have first hand experience with either school
Yeah, so you called me a douche, which admittedly I was being but also admittedly you're being a hot-headed a-hole that is pulling justifications out of thin air. i.e. Median grades = median salary. Which really signify to the rest of us that you haven't done your due diligence. You also think that GMU is going to place you in DC because you'll be there. But FYI, American, Catholic et. al. tell you the same thing (oh but you'll be here in the Fall/Spring when no one else will and by the way, others will. GW and GTown have ginormous classes including their PT programs and all those people are also in DC over the fall/spring). Literally, just about everyone in DC has a JD. Barrista JD, Waiter JD, Cap Hill job JD, Piercing Pagoda JD, Sunglass Hut JD. What makes you think you'll be the odd ball out?
And if you're so convinced that you'll be the odd one out and end up with median salary because your grades will be Median at GMU then why are you looking for validation on this board?
All we're trying to say is DO YOUR RESEARCH and GET SOME SENSE. You're about to make a horrible mistake. One that you can fix preemptively. And not taking this advice would make you stoopid.
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just trying to be persistent enough to get a real response which you just started on. I don't think I'll be the odd one out. And actually if someone could poke holes in the "working during the spring and fall part through externships" I'd love to hear it, honestly. I just don't think the "everyone has a jd argument" is valid in the way you described it. I mean, from my understanding, firms will generally hire SAs through law school students and not people who have been out of school for a while and not working in a legal job. That being said, if you have numbers that compare vacancies vs students in the area I'd love to hear about them, but no one has given a backed-up argument other than "everyone has it and you're not special". I don't assume to be special, but please enlighten me.
And on the research note: The "median=/= median" thing is worthless. It could be true, it could not be. The reason I said in the original post that it didn't matter is because there isn't enough info. You honestly can't assume in either direction. I know more about these law schools than a lot of the people who work in the admissions offices. I know the facts. I've read almost all of the books regarding law school decisions and a good bit of the articles that are published. I'm just looking for someone to actually poke holes in the arguments and give me a "this is why OSU is better than GMU" or vice versa.
TatteredDignity: I think I have a solid shot out of GMU for several reasons. One of which is the professors. Josh Wright, Zywicki, Soman, etc. are all experts in the field and have connections. I've heard from students that they are more than willing to help people out by sending your resume to their friends. I also know that the dual degree in econ is a possibility, and GMU's econ department is stellar. Whether or not it would be worth the cost/benefit ratio I have yet to decide. And even past all of that, I'm not going to try and corner myself into one field. I would be fine doing any sort of litigation (med mal, civil, criminal, etc.). In my prior work experience I've worked on contracts (specifically ISP98 and UCC500 Standby Letters of Credit). I didn't really like the paper pushing aspect of that, but the formulation was interesting so I would be willing to go back into a more intellectualized version of that. And the money thing isn't as huge for me as everyone inflates it to be. I've been an adult for a while and can honestly say that, while it would be nice to go to a school for free, money is not a concern in the long run. Debts are eventually paid off and maybe a pinch at times, but it is rarely nowhere near the pain of having to slug through a career with no pleasure whatsoever. Having already paid off my UG debt and things like mortgages and car payments etc., I can speak from experience on that subject.
I've gotta get to work. If anyone can poke holes or provide some insight, I'd appreciate it.