OSU v. George Mason

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Where should I go?

OSU
17
71%
GMU
7
29%
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:46 pm

rad lulz wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:Hahaha I love how all of the responses are from non-OSU and non-GMU posters.

You don't need to go to GMU to know that sticker at GMU is a terrible idea.

Just incidentally OP, for c/o 2011, 69/170 got jobs that will allow someone to even have a hope of repaying $200k in loans.

13 in biglaw (firms of 100+), 52 in govt. and PI (10 year loan forgiveness), and 4 AIII clerks.

That's a 41% shot. Keep in mind that 80% of biglaw associates are out by year 5, generally making solid, but less than $160k biglaw money. Also for govt., you have to not get laid off for 10 years, and make a measly salary while doing it.

In 2010, it was a 43% shot.

http://www.law.gmu.edu/career/employment_information


You keep talking about BigLaw. OP has already said he is fine with debt issues. Also, OP can move to a market that is mid-sized and pay less in rent/mortgage (I'd say rent for awhile) to off-set costs. And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail. OP seems reasonable so I love how you put him in the 80% zone without considering that he could be a 20%er. Glass half empty folks are always fun to be around.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:49 pm

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby romothesavior » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:49 pm

BearsGrl wrote:And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail.

Fail? Uh, no.

Most of them lateral to smaller firms with better partnership odds, lateral to in-house jobs (which typically require big firm experience), or lateral to solid government work.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:50 pm

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby Incubateus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:51 pm

I actually find those stats reasonable.

And thanks for putting the train back on the tracks Bearsgrl
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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:53 pm

romothesavior wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail.

Fail? Uh, no.

Most of them lateral to smaller firms with better partnership odds, lateral to in-house jobs (which typically require big firm experience), or lateral to solid government work.


Dude - You can't respond to my comments EVER and seem credible. Your PM dismissed this fact. Move along.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:56 pm

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:57 pm

BearsGrl wrote:And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail. OP seems reasonable so I love how you put him in the 80% zone without considering that he could be a 20%er. Glass half empty folks are always fun to be around.


You can't possibly read this and think it makes any sense. Seriously BearsGrl, take a deep breath and re-read your own stuff before you fire it off. Your arguments just jump all over the place like nothing I've ever seen.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby romothesavior » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:59 pm

BearsGrl wrote:Dude - You can't respond to my comments EVER and seem credible. Your PM dismissed this fact. Move along.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:59 pm

rad lulz wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail.

Fail? Uh, no.

Most of them lateral to smaller firms with better partnership odds, lateral to in-house jobs (which typically require big firm experience), or lateral to solid government work.

Which is awesome, but not if you have $200k debt.


I generally agree with your sentiment, but I'm saying that OP wanted OSU vs. GMU opinions.

You can offer Vandy opinions. Or if you moved from out of state to Vandy. Otherwise, your response will always be retake.

If people are fortunate enough to enter into a mid-market Vault firm with more than 500 employees, I don't see the down-side of going to the local state school, the local private school or schools in the region. There are tons of options once the employment window is cracked. Obviously, you need to research bios at the firm that you're interested in, but you are putting everyone in the 20%er zone.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:01 am

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:03 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:And I love statistics where you show that 80% of people didn't feel like handling the burden of BigLaw. So people enter BigLaw only to fail. OP seems reasonable so I love how you put him in the 80% zone without considering that he could be a 20%er. Glass half empty folks are always fun to be around.


You can't possibly read this and think it makes any sense. Seriously BearsGrl, take a deep breath and re-read your own stuff before you fire it off. Your arguments just jump all over the place like nothing I've ever seen.


Do you go to OSU or GMU? If not, I think you should aim your fire at those posting. I'll wait.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:03 am

OP, if you were looking for validation of your decision, you'll find it from BearsGrl, who is either the most artful troll or stupidest person I've encountered on TLS in quite a while.

I hope you'll take the time to reread some of this stuff and take it to heart, but it appears your mind is made up. I think you're making a mistake, but you seem a like a good guy though. Ultimately it is your money and your call. I wish you luck with whatever it is you decide to do and I hope it all works out for you.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:08 am

rad lulz wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:I generally agree with your sentiment, but I'm saying that OP wanted OSU vs. GMU opinions.

You can offer Vandy opinions. Or if you moved from out of state to Vandy. Otherwise, your response will always be retake.

If people are fortunate enough to enter into a mid-market Vault firm with more than 500 employees, I don't see the down-side of going to the local state school, the local private school or schools in the region. There are tons of options once the employment window is cracked. Obviously, you need to research bios at the firm that you're interested in, but you are putting everyone in the 20%er zone.

This is nonsensical


What is nonsensical is someone that's a 2L who is posting on TLS. As I said, why are you not studying or networking? You seem to think that posting as a non-OSU and GMU alum is of importance to this particular thread. Is that what they teach you at Vandy? If OP was a client, this would be an epic fail of a client preparation. But hey, continue to post in a non-Vandy thread. There is no fail in that. Not one bit.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:10 am

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:12 am

A 0L... posting in a choosing your law school thread... telling posters not to post in it to offer advice... unless they are current students or alumni of said school...

But she's a 0L... so... wait...

Trying to process this.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:15 am

romothesavior wrote:OP, if you were looking for validation of your decision, you'll find it from BearsGrl, who is either the most artful troll or stupidest person I've encountered on TLS in quite a while.

I hope you'll take the time to reread some of this stuff and take it to heart, but it appears your mind is made up. I think you're making a mistake, but you seem a like a good guy though. Ultimately it is your money and your call. I wish you luck with whatever it is you decide to do and I hope it all works out for you.


Dude - Your PM showed how excellent your skills as a counsel would be. You have made your point in this thread, mind you as a non-OSU and non-GMU alum.

I do enjoy the fact that if we ever worked for the same firm, with your PM alone, I'd be able to get you fired. They don't mess in BigLaw.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:17 am

romothesavior wrote:A 0L... posting in a choosing your law school thread... telling posters not to post in it to offer advice... unless they are current students or alumni of said school...

But she's a 0L... so... wait...

Trying to process this.


OP said that he only wanted OSU and GMU alumni/current students to comment.

Not only do you have issues with women, but also reading comprehension. Give it up.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:18 am

BearsGrl wrote:OP said that he only wanted OSU and GMU alumni/current students to comment.

Are you an OSU/GMU law student? Okay, ta-ta.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby bdole2 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:23 am

BearsGrl wrote:I do enjoy the fact that if we ever worked for the same firm, with your PM alone, I'd be able to get you fired. They don't mess in BigLaw.


Nobody cares. Stop being self-righteous.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:26 am

romothesavior wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:OP said that he only wanted OSU and GMU alumni/current students to comment.

Are you an OSU/GMU law student? Okay, ta-ta.


Have I offered OP insight to either in this thread? More reading comprehension fail.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby Incubateus » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:28 am

Stop bickering you simple fucks. If you can't answer the question as a GMU or OSU alum or current student, then stop posting here.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby rad lulz » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:29 am

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby BearsGrl » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:29 am

bdole2 wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:I do enjoy the fact that if we ever worked for the same firm, with your PM alone, I'd be able to get you fired. They don't mess in BigLaw.


Nobody cares. Stop being self-righteous.


There is nothing self-righteous about my post. Romo displayed his personality in the PM and showed why he should not be considered as credible. Period.

And seeing as you responded, you care. Don't care? Don't respond. :D

Exactly what OP said above, if not OSU/GMU alum or current student, leave the thread.

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Re: OSU v. George Mason

Postby Incubateus » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:33 am

rad lulz wrote:
Incubateus wrote:Stop bickering you simple fucks. If you can't answer the question as a GMU or OSU alum or current student, then stop posting here.

OSU is the least bad of 2 excessively mediocre options, and I don't need to be an alum or current student to tell you that.


Yes, you don't need to be. But I want you to be. Thank you.




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