Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

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Which one?

Cornell (sticker)
20
43%
BC (84K)
14
30%
WUSTL (129K)
13
28%
 
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Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby Keepingcalm » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:50 pm

In the interest of full disclosure I am mainly using this to reinforce my own desire to attend Cornell. That being said, I want to make sure I am not overlooking a major blunder.

I do want to work BIGLAW, Boston or NYC.

Not all that debt-averse, but obviously I don't relish it.

Lived in MA my entire life, so I'd prefer to end up in Boston, but if I had to choose BETWEEN Boston and BIGLAW I would choose BIGLAW.

WUSTL is included because I have ties and immediate family that live in the Mid-West.

Any input is appreciated.
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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby paulshortys10 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:35 pm

how much exactly at BC?

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby bk1 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:40 pm

You want biglaw? Probably Cornell.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby Keepingcalm » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:44 pm

paulshortys10 wrote:how much exactly at BC?



84K

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby elm84dr » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:15 pm

Poll/Scholly info important here.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby Keepingcalm » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:44 pm

Poll and scholly info included now.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby pferaso » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:50 pm

The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%) doesn´t justify the cost in my view. Try to negotiate some aid from Cornell, that could level the field.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby paulshortys10 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:50 pm

pferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%) doesn´t justify the cost in my view. Try to negotiate some aid from Cornell, that could level the field.


I agree with the last sentence .
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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby top30man » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:51 pm

bk1 wrote:You want biglaw? Probably Cornell.

Agreed. Also Cornell does a Boston job fair that's just their students. Also they have a decent but not spectacular lrap to bail you out if you miss big law.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby bk1 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:57 pm

pferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%)


wut

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby top30man » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:47 pm

bk1 wrote:
pferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%)


wut

Yeah I was about to say the same. Even the 2011 nlj data, which is among the worst in recent memory, Cornell was around 40% and BC was around 20%. This is a 100% difference, not 10%.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby bk1 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:51 pm

top30man wrote:Yeah I was about to say the same. Even the 2011 nlj data, which is among the worst in recent memory, Cornell was around 40% and BC was around 20%. This is a 100% difference, not 10%.


I'm assuming he means in absolute terms, not in relative terms. Even then it still doesn't make sense.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby 2014 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:52 pm

129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby woeisme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:27 am

2014 wrote:129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.


Cornell at sticker would scare you but not MVP? For OP's goals these are largely peer schools.

I vote Cornell, OP.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby rad lulz » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:06 am

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:46 am

Try to negotiate with both BC & Cornell.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby woeisme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:57 am

CanadianWolf wrote:Try to negotiate with both BC & Cornell.


Absent compelling circumstances, I don't think Cornell considers $ from non-T14s with the exception of Texas and sometimes UCLA. That's been my experience, anyway. Anyone else?

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:02 am

Then negotiate based on different factors with Cornell.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby woeisme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:06 am

CanadianWolf wrote:Then negotiate based on different factors with Cornell.


Intrigued. Not sure how one does this or what you mean. But yeah, by all means, negotiate with whatever you can.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby 2014 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:02 am

woeisme wrote:
2014 wrote:129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.


Cornell at sticker would scare you but not MVP? For OP's goals these are largely peer schools.

I vote Cornell, OP.

Fair question but it seems like Cornell provides less mobility than the tier of schools above it while being admittedly a peer in NYC. Granted the OP favors NYC but options are always good.

I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby woeisme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:41 am

2014 wrote:I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.


Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby Keepingcalm » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:24 am

woeisme wrote:
2014 wrote:I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.


Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)


Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULC

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby woeisme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:52 am

Keepingcalm wrote:
Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULC


Absent really good softs or other redeeming factors, I don't think you're likely to get into NU or GULC. Frankly, you're also pretty unlikely to get money from Cornell (many wouldn't even get in with those numbers). I really think your best bet to get some Cornell money would be to leverage BC/WUSTL with a school like UCLA or Texas (if you have an acceptance from one of those) and then try to leverage that with Cornell. I realize you're working against the clock and don't really know all your info.

Anyway, where you choose to attend needn't have anything to do with your stats. I think Cornell at sticker is your best bet, based on your disclosed career goals.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby 2014 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:08 pm

Keepingcalm wrote:
woeisme wrote:
2014 wrote:I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.


Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)


Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULC

Hell of an offer from WUSTL with those stats, but given your goals it's a tough call. GULC and NU probably aren't happening.

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)

Postby Robespierre » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:15 pm

OP - Are you borrowing the whole cost of attendance minus scholly? No money available from savings or family?




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