unc0mm0n1 wrote:Yukos wrote:dingbat wrote:Yukos wrote:There's still parts that are dangerous, though it's more block to block than whole swathes now. Still, the gentrification of Harlem is way overblow: go east of Malcolm X and it's clear you're not in Morningside Heights.
Source: I live in Harlem (the gentrified part obvi).
I've spent time in harlem. I've also spent time in dangerous areas. There's a noticeable difference
Lol ok well if you "spent time there" you're obviously an expert. I just live here, what do I know?
I think Dingbat's point is someone who is a sheltered Columbia student may think any place with multiple dark people is dangerous. While many people who have lived in places exponentially more dangerous in this country, would not consider Harlem a particularly dangerous neighborhood by comparison. You may have a different idea of what dangerous is. According to some Harlem is actually much safer than many other NYC neighborhoods:
DNAinfo.com released their New York City Crime and Safety Report yesterday, which featured surprising results from around the five boroughs.
All 69 New York City neighborhoods were scored on total per capita crime as well as types of crime: violent, rape, robbery, grand larceny, felony assault, burglary and auto theft.
Contrary to what you might expect, areas like Midtown Manhattan and Greenwich Village were rated as more dangerous than Harlem and Washington Heights.
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dan ... z28pST7VMK
And my point was that it's a huge assumption to think that you know more about an area than someone who lives there.
I'm well aware that Harlem (and to an even greater extent Washington Heights) are not dangerous places in general. But there's certainly open-air drug markets and places where gangs fight over turf. It varies block to block, and I think any Harlem resident would agree.
The whole thing is ridiculous because my comment was East Palo Alto is not nearly as dangerous as parts of Harlem. I think that statement would be pretty hard to argue against (though apparently Dingbat wants to try)