Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

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Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby arizonastategirl23 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:07 pm

Okay so I am trying to decide where to go....

Here are my choices:

Quinnipiac with full scholly plus stipend.
Hofstra with full scholly.
Stetson with $30,000 scholly
Richmond with $15,000 a year
Pepperdine with $22,500 a year.

I want to go into trial advocacy probably or international law.... I also have never lived in the cold always the intense Arizona heat.... but I don't know if I should use weather to factor in my decision.

Also, I have NO idea where I want to practice law after graduating.

Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:12 pm

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:14 pm

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby arizonastategirl23 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:25 pm

It wasn't dart board...I met the dean of Quinnipiac when he was in Arizona. I travel for Phi Alpha Delta and sat in on a Stetson class in Florida and was impressed by their trial ad. program as well as their program in the Hague for international human rights and their other study abroad programs. Hofstra was a cheaper cost of living choice and close enough to the New York legal market without being in New York City persay. Richmond I also met the dean on a trip and some students and Pepperdine I love their global justice and human rights program.

As far as international law goes I really want to spend a semester at least studying abroad in law school because my entire undergrad has been spent studying international human rights.

And, while many cases do not go to trial I still feel a good trial advocacy background would be helpful in any type of arbitration, mediation or dispute resolution scenarios- many of which are used when attempting to get many countries to agree on international issues...

So if anyone can ACTUALLY help me decide, maybe people from these regions it would be helpful.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:34 pm

Your chances of working in international human rights from these schools is effectively 0%. International law programs are basically a marketing ploy, not a realistic career option.

As a primer, see: http://www.annaivey.com/iveyfiles/2008/11/international_law_believe_the_hype

If you want to do international human rights, the best way to give yourself a realistic shot at it is to go work for an international NGO before you start law school. Law school, especially these, aren't gonna open any doors.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby Blindmelon » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:38 pm

None of them are really going to help you career-wise, so I'd take QPac as long as the scholarship has no stipulations - only because you'll graduate with no debt and getting a job from any of these schools will be a real up-hill battle. At least with QPac if you can't find a job, you won't be saddled with life-ruining debt.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:42 pm

Blindmelon wrote:None of them are really going to help you career-wise, so I'd take QPac as long as the scholarship has no stipulations - only because you'll graduate with no debt and getting a job from any of these schools will be a real up-hill battle. At least with QPac if you can't find a job, you won't be saddled with life-ruining debt.

I bet it comes with stips.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby romothesavior » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:18 pm

None. Rethink your career goals, retake the LSAT, and go to a school that has reasonable prospects, or don't bother.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby GATORTIM » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:40 pm

Don't go.

Interested in "study abroad": buy a plane ticket to Europe, locate a local bookstore and find a cool spot to read for a couple of hours.

Interested in trial ad?: commit a heinous crime and refuse the plea deal or watch some stuff from the "courtroom dramas" section on Netflix

Interested in "get many countries to agree on international issues"?: I don't even know what skills this requires, but I don't think they teach them in TTT law schools. You may have a better chance of accomplishing this by purchasing a shit ton of Rosetta Stone programs, rounding up several world leaders and taking them to get drunk and sign agreements on bar napkins.

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Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:44 pm

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby Br3v » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:47 pm

romothesavior wrote:None. Rethink your career goals, retake the LSAT, and go to a school that has reasonable prospects, or don't bother.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby GATORTIM » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:56 pm

rad lulz wrote:
GATORTIM wrote:Interested in "get many countries to agree on international issues"?: I don't even know what skills this requires, but I don't think they teach them in TTT law schools.

I'd say raise a small army, try to pull off a small coup. Helps if it's bloodless, but it doesn't matter really. After you suppress internal dissidents, throw your weight around at the UN to try to pass some resolutions of something. If that doesn't work, enforce your consensus via arms, Stalin style. I suggest forming a "pact" or a "bloc."


OP may want to use Rads formula in establishing his own military state. I had considered this, but OP's school selection hints that he may be nomadic. It may prove difficult for OP to recruit loyal militant rebels from various regions of this country to rise up against a random sovereign overseas (that is unless he is able to have his band of brothers fly to him for training - similar to the Dean of Quinnipiac example).

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby top30man » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:08 pm

No ASU/Arizona? Wouldnt that make the most sense with your personal ties?

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby timbs4339 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:41 pm

Do you know how many goddamn international relations, study abroad people, or human rights majors there are in this country? A shitton. Do you know how many of them go to law school? A ton. There are probably more international law professors than entry-level jobs in "international law." My friends who are working in international law either 1) worked for years at NGOs in specific, out of the way countries (think Eastern Europe or sub-saharan Africa), 2) are biglawyers with Magic Circle or NYC firms who are fluent in another language but also have the credentials to get it on their own (T6, top 1/2.)

Trial advocacy programs are marketing ploys. What you want is a cheap, regional school that places a ton of people into the local or state DA, attorney general, or public defender's office. Preferably a place where you have ties so it will be easier to get hired. No private firm and especially no NGO is going to get you good trial ad experience out of law school.

Retake.

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Re: Quinnipiac v. Hofstra v. Stetson HELP!

Postby SunshineMagic » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:09 pm

arizonastategirl23 wrote:It wasn't dart board...I met the dean of Quinnipiac when he was in Arizona. I travel for Phi Alpha Delta and sat in on a Stetson class in Florida and was impressed by their trial ad. program as well as their program in the Hague for international human rights and their other study abroad programs. Hofstra was a cheaper cost of living choice and close enough to the New York legal market without being in New York City persay. Richmond I also met the dean on a trip and some students and Pepperdine I love their global justice and human rights program.

As far as international law goes I really want to spend a semester at least studying abroad in law school because my entire undergrad has been spent studying international human rights.

And, while many cases do not go to trial I still feel a good trial advocacy background would be helpful in any type of arbitration, mediation or dispute resolution scenarios- many of which are used when attempting to get many countries to agree on international issues...

So if anyone can ACTUALLY help me decide, maybe people from these regions it would be helpful.


I have looked on martindale not really for this but more so for international tax attorneys(overseas reincorporation) and stetson has quite a few tax attorneys focused on the overseas (caymans/Zurich) in the tampa area but 99% of them go stetson JD --> ether UF tax LLM or Georgetown tax LLM after. I think "International Law" attorneys are very very rare but there are a measurable amount of practices focused on International tax law but I don't think you really go to another country with these jobs you just show clients how to go about getting around the IRS. Though this still interest me.




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