jenesaislaw wrote:Law School Transparency's Data Clearinghouse is live for all schools for the class of 2011. --LinkRemoved--
Awesome job guys, love this: --LinkRemoved--
However, I don't think the computation of "long-term, full-time" is done right. Some schools (*cough* NYU) count law school funded positions as long-term, full-time. Others (e.g. Penn) don't count them as long-term, full-time. NYU comes out looking great with 90%, but once you take out the unemployment fellowships, you're looking at a much more average 78%.
A few things. First, there's really no choice for the long-term, full-time rate. It's a straight calculation and this is how the definitions work. Interestingly, NALP introduced a new feature for the 2011 data. It now distinguishes among long-term jobs. They're either (a) for a definite duration of at least one year; or (b) for an indefinite duration. When we request NALP reports from schools, we will be able to distinguish things better.
Second, this is actually a more applicable criticism of our Employment Score. It is something we thought long and hard about keeping out of the score. Ultimately, there are two reasons we didn't, with one being extremely convincing (in my opinion) and the second being a reason that makes me sigh and shrug my shoulders.
(1) We cannot assume that all school-funded jobs are bar-required jobs across the board
. That is, for some schools we can deduce this because too few people are in non bar-required jobs to account for all school-funded jobs. We toyed with making this assumption, but after I spoke with Jim Leipold (exec. director of NALP) about this, we decided we couldn't make the assumption. For us, it is totally compelling to keep them in because we cannot make this assumption (and need it to make the translation perfectly).
(2) If we start excluding these jobs (we did exclude solos), how do we distinguish these jobs from clerkships? It'd be absurd to exclude federal clerkships; and it'd be in advisable to distinguish between federal and state clerkships, even if
the federal jobs are significantly more competitive. But the score isn't about being competitive; it's about being on a path to a career. And for many states, state clerkships serve that role. Less compelling, but still compelling in my opinion.