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Postby echooo23 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:06 pm

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby taikofox » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:26 pm

echooo23 wrote:And, please, no "Go back and re-take the LSAT, "Neither, they both suck at sticker price," or other comments of that ilk.

Why not?

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby echooo23 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:31 pm

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby gossard267 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:51 pm

echooo23 wrote:Because I've already accepted the reality of my academic history, and as an older applicant, having already taken the LSAT 3 times, I don't want to wait another year. I'm not looking to make it rich as a lawyer. I've been a paralegal for 6 years and know what I'm getting into. I love my job, but I want to learn more to do more. I just want to work, be happy, and not be in serious debt.


How is the text in bold in any way compatible with the scenarios outlined in the original question? In your estimation, is 100k+ worth of debt not 'serious'?

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby taikofox » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:51 pm

echooo23 wrote:I just want to work, be happy, and not be in serious debt.

With these two options, you should think long and hard about that third part. It'll most likely determine the likelihood of parts one and two.

If your contacts are strong enough to land you a job, pick the school that's cheapest. A lot of us don't have that luxury, so we try to get into the best schools we can.

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby cinephile » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:57 pm

There are several students in their early thirties in my section alone. It's better to wait and start your career at a school that gives you the best options than to settle for less because you're impatient not to let any more time pass.

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby echooo23 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:12 pm

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Postby echooo23 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:36 pm

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby t14fanboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:40 pm

What do you want to hear? You seem to have done the calculations. Go based on fit I guess.

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby cinephile » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:31 pm

echooo23 wrote:
cinephile wrote:There are several students in their early thirties in my section alone. It's better to wait and start your career at a school that gives you the best options than to settle for less because you're impatient not to let any more time pass.


Thank you for your input. It's less impatience for me (though I'll admit that's a part of it) as the fact that I have accepted the reality of my academic history. Not only do I have a dismally low GPA, but I also dropped out of high school and then took 9 years to finish college. Not that this speaks to my academic abilities in any way, but that's just the path my life took. Additionally, I've already taken the LSAT 3 times (first time unscored, the second and third times were within 1 point of each other), and while I may score higher a fourth time, I don't realistically see myself scoring significantly higher.

Given this (and I understand the difference between being honest with oneself and simply lacking confidence), I do believe that I'm not settling by choosing between USF and LUC. Were I to retake the LSAT and achieve a (slightly) higher score, my options would probably still be among the T2s at the highest. And since all the advice I've read from TLS pretty much says that all schools below a certain point (some say T14, others genersously say T50) are all the same, I don't see how waiting a year to go to a school ranked just slightly higher than either of these two options is worth it. But, perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way and should revise my thinking.

Also, I have been waitlisted at other schools. For example, if I'm accepted off the WL at Chicago-Kent, I would strongly consider going there over LUC. However, I'm working with what I've got at the moment.


I was probably unfair in my first post. But if you are going to stick with a lower range of schools, you should try to minimize your debt. Maybe even a slightly higher LSAT could give you some scholarship money. Or maybe targeting certain public interest scholarships with the promise to do public interest work for 5 years post-grad (a number of schools have scholarships like this). Or, alternatively, what about a school with a part-time program that allows you to continue working to minimize debt?

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby 071816 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:34 pm

Seriously, do yourself a favor and do not go to either of those schools at those prices. I would be hesitant to recommend USF even with a full scholarship and it would be dumb to go to Loyola-Chicago without a significant scholarship, ties to the region, and a desire to be in Chicago long term.
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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:12 pm

This really comes down to location. Would you rather be unemployed and massively indebted in Chicago, or in San Fran?

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby rad lulz » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:34 am

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby station4 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:34 am

What about part-time at USF while keeping your current job? Or if you work for a large company with an office in Chicago, transferring to Chicago and going part-time to LUC? If you graduate from USF (part-time or full-time), do you think you would be able to secure an attorney job with the place you are currently working as a paralegal?

It would seem like part-time at USF, possibly living at home, keeping your current job, while not a previously stated option, would be a good choice. It would keep your debt (relatively) low, you would get a JD, and you would stay active in the legal community you already have ties to.

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Postby echooo23 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:38 pm

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Re: USF or Loyola Chicago?

Postby RedBirds2011 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:46 pm

echooo23 wrote:Thanks for all the advice, everyone. Doing a PT program, while working, is something I had briefly considered. I may give it some more thought and really open myself up to that possibility. Thanks.



PT programs are really great IMO for older students. Don't want to give up WE unless you are going to a very highly ranked school.




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