Campbell Law?

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kwais
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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby kwais » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:21 pm

I think OP made a decent call here. But I must make one observation here; small + rural =/= "boutique."

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby BlueJeanBaby » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:26 am

kwais wrote:I think OP made a decent call here. But I must make one observation here; small + rural =/= "boutique."


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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby Yukos » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:13 pm

BlueJeanBaby wrote:
kwais wrote:I think OP made a decent call here. But I must make one observation here; small + rural =/= "boutique."


OP ended up opting out of Campbell and pretty much headed to UNC or bust (bust=grad school). Sowwy.. :\


What changed your mind?

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby Jah'rakal » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:38 pm

BlueJeanBaby wrote:I was hoping for some insight on Campbell Law School. The school's profile says it does well for such a low ranked school. If anyone could provide any information or opinions about it I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you


is that actually ur butt in ur avatar?

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby jdcumlaude » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:48 pm

I know this post is old, but I think it is important to give you my experience with Campbell Law

I was fed all the lines "great local reputation", "small firms and judges love to hire Campbell alums b/c x y and Z".

I attended, I graduated cum laude, I interned with DA's offices, I interned with local government attorneys, I passed the Bar the first time, I volunteered as a licensed attorney as an assistant district attorney. I have been licensed for 2 years and after dreaming about being an attorney and serving the public I feel I have wasted five years of my life.

I am now going back to school to become a Social Studies teacher. I will not make much money, but at least my 200k+ loan debt will be wiped in 10 years.

Avoid my mistakes. Do not attend law school unless you have a job guaranteed. For the record the "doc-review untill you find a real job" line is a lie. Doc review is where your young legal career will go to die.

according to Law School Transparency and the ABA about 60% of Campbell students had full time jobs requiring law license. This number includes those who simply hung out a shingle because there was nothing better. That means that an unknown percentage of this 60% may be making far less than your average paralegal in Wake County NC (40-45k).

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby Dr. Review » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:08 pm

First: No sense necroing this thread for this conversation.

Second: We get it, you're pissed. Move on with your life.

Third:
jdcumlaude wrote:according to Law School Transparency and the ABA about 60% of Campbell students had full time jobs requiring law license. This number includes those who simply hung out a shingle because there was nothing better.

No it doesn't.
LST wrote:The percentage of graduates who have successfully started a career in the practice of law, though it does not judge the quality of that start. We count only Bar Passage Required jobs while excluding Short-term and Part-time jobs, as well as self-employed Solo Practitioners. An asterisk will accompany the score if it includes school-funded jobs.

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:00 am

Dr. Review wrote:First: No sense necroing this thread for this conversation.

Second: We get it, you're pissed. Move on with your life.

Third:
jdcumlaude wrote:according to Law School Transparency and the ABA about 60% of Campbell students had full time jobs requiring law license. This number includes those who simply hung out a shingle because there was nothing better.

No it doesn't.
LST wrote:The percentage of graduates who have successfully started a career in the practice of law, though it does not judge the quality of that start. We count only Bar Passage Required jobs while excluding Short-term and Part-time jobs, as well as self-employed Solo Practitioners. An asterisk will accompany the score if it includes school-funded jobs.


I know this thread is about to be closed soon, but for our purposes, the term "solo" also includes (1) a couple of recent grads who band together to form Broke, Unemployed, and InDebt LLP, which is technically a firm of between 2-10 people even though it's probably bringing in no business, and (2) solos who join larger "firms" as quasi-independent contractors through "affiliate" agreements, where the firm provides facilities and other logistical services (printing, binding, process serving, etc) but it is the lawyer's job to bring in the business. None of these are probably what the Campbell students had in mind when they entered law school as being a real legal job.

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Re: Campbell Law?

Postby jdcumlaude » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:14 pm

timbs4339 wrote:
Dr. Review wrote:First: No sense necroing this thread for this conversation.

Second: We get it, you're pissed. Move on with your life.

Third:
jdcumlaude wrote:according to Law School Transparency and the ABA about 60% of Campbell students had full time jobs requiring law license. This number includes those who simply hung out a shingle because there was nothing better.

No it doesn't.
LST wrote:The percentage of graduates who have successfully started a career in the practice of law, though it does not judge the quality of that start. We count only Bar Passage Required jobs while excluding Short-term and Part-time jobs, as well as self-employed Solo Practitioners. An asterisk will accompany the score if it includes school-funded jobs.


I know this thread is about to be closed soon, but for our purposes, the term "solo" also includes (1) a couple of recent grads who band together to form Broke, Unemployed, and InDebt LLP, which is technically a firm of between 2-10 people even though it's probably bringing in no business, and (2) solos who join larger "firms" as quasi-independent contractors through "affiliate" agreements, where the firm provides facilities and other logistical services (printing, binding, process serving, etc) but it is the lawyer's job to bring in the business. None of these are probably what the Campbell students had in mind when they entered law school as being a real legal job.



I know of at least 6 people who are in this boat from my graduating class, 2013.




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