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Postby rad lulz » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:06 pm

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby gravityrides0 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:08 pm

rad lulz wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:you get lost in the crowd of comm major sluts

Sounds like a good crowd to get lost in



you'd fit in perfectly!

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby 20160810 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:58 pm

rad lulz wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:you get lost in the crowd of comm major sluts

Sounds like a good crowd to get lost in

+1

ASU girls are unreal.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Rawlberto » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:44 am

SBL wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:you get lost in the crowd of comm major sluts

Sounds like a good crowd to get lost in

+1

ASU girls are unreal.


Meh, crazy hot or crazy ugly.

ASU is a joke. Case in point: I graduated from ASU.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Kdbr » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:37 am

Haters gonna hate. Asu ranked highly for a number of reasons and not because it cooked the books. All of the schools use screwed employment ratings-asu is one of the few that openly discusses what the percentage actually means. Yes, there are fewer jobs- but that is true everywhere. Many firms came to fall oci, and several students found jobs through it- including those outside of the top 10%. The reason to choose asu is not a question of rank snobbery but of opportunity. Asu corners the Phoenix job market. Any student that wants externship or clinical opportunities finds that. Asu grads are becoming more competitive because they leave law school with a degree from a reputable school and a resume stacked with experience.


Say what you want- but I have a paid job with a reputable firm, excellent experience working for both a federal agency and a federal judge, and a tan in March.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby rad lulz » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:50 am

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby eringobragh » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:27 am

Kdbr wrote:Haters gonna hate. Asu ranked highly for a number of reasons and not just because it cooked the books.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby PDaddy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:41 am

RobotGardener wrote:Well the 99% number sure is not a true reflection of their employment data but they are pretty upfront about it. It took me two seconds of googling to find the real deal.

The break down is like this

167 students.

3 not seeking employment (no explanation as to why)
34 employed part time.
20 "employed" in full time off campus graduate fellowships funded by the law school.

That leaves 110 student with full time employment. That is only 65.8% of the class that is actually employed full time.

So really they are lying (but with statistics). I think this is pretty common among law schools.

Edit: source: http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=COlw4E3yVXU%3d&tabid=930


Wait until the ABA begins requiring schools to report only those jobs that express in writing a "requirement" or "preference" for JD's (separating the two categories), as well as disclose those jobs that are funded by the law schools and/or colleges and universities themselves. Then you're really going to see who has been lying.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Easy-E » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:53 am

Kdbr wrote:Haters gonna hate. Asu ranked highly for a number of reasons and not because it cooked the books. All of the schools use screwed employment ratings-asu is one of the few that openly discusses what the percentage actually means. Yes, there are fewer jobs- but that is true everywhere. Many firms came to fall oci, and several students found jobs through it- including those outside of the top 10%. The reason to choose asu is not a question of rank snobbery but of opportunity. Asu corners the Phoenix job market. Any student that wants externship or clinical opportunities finds that. Asu grads are becoming more competitive because they leave law school with a degree from a reputable school and a resume stacked with experience.


Say what you want- but I have a paid job with a reputable firm, excellent experience working for both a federal agency and a federal judge, and a tan in March.


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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby desertlaw » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:36 am

It's just not true that ASU corners the Phoenix market. Most of the big firms in Phoenix have 1-2 SA's that are from ASU/UA and then the rest of their class is T14 students (+ Texas or in Snell's case, someone from Iowa or Vandy usually it seems). I definitely think top 10% at ASU makes you competitive, but the big firms still seem to prefer people that grew up in Phoenix but then went to MVPD for law school and want to come back (assuming decent grades).

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby gravityrides0 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:56 pm

ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Easy-E » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:38 pm

gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.



Implying the rankings actually mean something.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby PolySuyGuy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:11 pm

emarxnj wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.



Implying the rankings actually mean something.




If rankings don't matter, than why do they have them?


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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby rad lulz » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:22 pm

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby 20160810 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:25 pm

rad lulz wrote:
PolySuyGuy wrote:
emarxnj wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.



Implying the rankings actually mean something.




If rankings don't matter, than why do they have them?


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If green tea enemas won't cure my cold then why do I keep blasting jets of hot tea up my ass?

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby gaud » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:35 pm

moneybagsphd wrote: Only go there if you want to end up in Arizona.


This.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby romothesavior » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:35 pm

PolySuyGuy wrote:
emarxnj wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.



Implying the rankings actually mean something.




If rankings don't matter, than why do they have them?


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This is just flat out idiotic.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby 071816 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:46 pm

PolySuyGuy wrote:If rankings don't matter, than why do they have them?


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*then

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby beardown_tho » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:05 am

SBL wrote:They just know where ASU and UofA ranked relative to one another


I'm not even sure they know that.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby PDaddy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:32 am

gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.


I accept and agree with most of the comments here questioning ASU's ranking. Just don't lump UW in with ASU. UW has actually been ranked #23 before, so its return to the top-25 is no surprise. Furthermore, UW is a superior university to ASU overall. The UW also dominates the entire pacific northwest. That isn't exactly the NY or L.A. market, but at least it dominates, and in more than one major city.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Blindmelon » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:09 am

PDaddy wrote:
gravityrides0 wrote:ASU is a good school. as of right now, only in Phoenix. but definitely not #26 good nationally. end of story.


I accept and agree with most of the comments here questioning ASU's ranking. Just don't lump UW in with ASU. UW has actually been ranked #23 before, so its return to the top-25 is no surprise. Furthermore, UW is a superior university to ASU overall. The UW also dominates the entire pacific northwest. That isn't exactly the NY or L.A. market, but at least it dominates, and in more than one major city.


.... sigh.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby PolySuyGuy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:57 pm

chimp wrote:
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I'll have to get that book. Your a big help, due they have anything for grammer?

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Easy-E » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:05 pm

PolySuyGuy wrote:I'll have to get that book. Your a big help, due they have anything for grammer?


You're an idiot and everything you post is useless drivel. Hope you knock 'em dead at ASU! No need to get one of those 3 year Big Law temp jobs.

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby PolySuyGuy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:14 pm

emarxnj wrote:
PolySuyGuy wrote:I'll have to get that book. Your a big help, due they have anything for grammer?


You're an idiot.



Thanks. I value your opinion. Very insightful and thoroughly researched......

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Re: ASU New USNWR Ranking/Affect on School

Postby Easy-E » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:15 pm

PolySuyGuy wrote:
emarxnj wrote:
PolySuyGuy wrote:I'll have to get that book. Your a big help, due they have anything for grammer?


You're an idiot.



Thanks. I value your opinion. Very insightful and thoroughly researched......



Your post history is public, so I did what I could.




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