Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby PhiAlphaFLBeta » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:43 pm

chimp wrote:
PhiAlphaFLBeta wrote:Only way I can see the rankings being relevant in any way is that we (0Ls) take them so seriously that we'll choose where we apply and enroll based on the USNews ranks. This affects the quality of students that school can recruit, which in theory would improve the quality of the graduates from that school. Long term, rankings could indirectly alter how law firms view schools.

Best advice I ever received was from a retired CT appellate court judge who told me to go where I can get the best legal education for the least amount of money regardless of rank.


That's actually pretty misleading/shitty advice.



Why? He was telling me to avoid spending 150k on a TT private school when I can spend 60k and get a good legal education from a TTT state school. Seems like good advice to me.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Dany » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:45 pm

Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

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Postby 071816 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:48 pm

Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.


This.

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Postby JoeMo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:15 pm

chimp wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.


This.


pretty much. This reminds me of that LSN profile where someone turned down Yale to go to Phoenix with $$$. Laughable.

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Postby 20160810 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:21 pm

JoeMo wrote:
chimp wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.


This.


pretty much. This reminds me of that LSN profile where someone turned down Yale to go to Phoenix with $$$. Laughable.

This sounds like pure, uncut trolling to me.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby PhiAlphaFLBeta » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:11 pm

After the T15, career prospects are mostly regional, so why spend 150k for a private school like Tulane when you can go to LSU for less than half the price. That's what I took from his advice.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:13 pm

PhiAlphaFLBeta wrote:After the T15, career prospects are mostly regional, so why spend 150k for a private school like Tulane when you can go to LSU for less than half the price. That's what I took from his advice.


This is good advice. This is not what you said before.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby prezidentv8 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:45 pm

Br3v wrote:Welcome to applying to law school where the employment prospects are made up and the rankings don't matter.

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Well that got some laughs from the Prez. :mrgreen:

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Postby Pleasye » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:52 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
Br3v wrote:Welcome to applying to law school where the employment prospects are made up and the rankings don't matter.

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Well that got some laughs from the Prez. :mrgreen:

Yeah I lol'd too.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Guchster » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:54 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
Well that got some laughs from the Prez. :mrgreen:


Third person post?

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Postby PhiAlphaFLBeta » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:57 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
PhiAlphaFLBeta wrote:After the T15, career prospects are mostly regional, so why spend 150k for a private school like Tulane when you can go to LSU for less than half the price. That's what I took from his advice.


This is good advice. This is not what you said before.


It's what I meant the first time, guess I didn't express it very well.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby spleenworship » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:15 pm

Pleasye wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
Br3v wrote:Welcome to applying to law school where the employment prospects are made up and the rankings don't matter.

Image


Well that got some laughs from the Prez. :mrgreen:

Yeah I lol'd too.

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Postby Renne Walker » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:11 am

If law school rankings didn’t matter, we’d all be living at home or in a vacation resort attending the area’s cheapest school.

I agree with posters claiming that we are taught the same thing in class. Over spring break a friend played an online recording from one of her classes, there wasn’t any difference to what we were imparted. Perhaps the day will come when we will all take identical classes on-line, get our grade, pass the bar and then fend for ourselves without being helped or worsened by law school rankings. But until then. . .

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Postby 20160810 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:41 am

Renne Walker wrote:If law school rankings didn’t matter, we’d all be living at home or in a vacation resort attending the area’s cheapest school.

I agree with posters claiming that we are taught the same thing in class. Over spring break a friend played an online recording from one of her classes, there wasn’t any difference to what we were imparted. Perhaps the day will come when we will all take identical classes on-line, get our grade, pass the bar and then fend for ourselves without being helped or worsened by law school rankings. But until then. . .

You're right, everyone should apply to ASU in DROVES

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Postby rad lulz » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:45 am

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Postby Guchster » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:51 am

Renne Walker wrote:If law school rankings didn’t matter, we’d all be living at home or in a vacation resort attending the area’s cheapest school.


USNWR are the only rankings that exist objectively or subjectively, AMIRITE?

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Postby 20160810 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:55 am

Guchster wrote:
Renne Walker wrote:If law school rankings didn’t matter, we’d all be living at home or in a vacation resort attending the area’s cheapest school.


USNWR are the only rankings that exist objectively or subjectively, AMIRITE?

Drop out now. ED to ASU.

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Postby Bless » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you won't learn anything in law school.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby romothesavior » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:17 pm

Bless wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you didn't learn anything in law school.

She's exaggerating a little (you do learn some stuff in law school), but most learning is done on the job, not in the classroom.

And she is definitely right that "best legal education" is stupid and it would be foolish for anyone to choose a school based on perceived differences in educational quality. Law schools are almost perfect carbon copies of one another. I am learning the same thing at my school as the rest of TLS is learning at theirs. To what extent there are differences in education, they are negligible compared to job prospects, and job prospects should be the top concern on everyone's mind, followed closely by debt.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Bless » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:23 pm

I agree that choosing a law school for the "best legal education" is retarded. Any difference, from the best to the worst, is so unexplainably minuscule and will have no effect in practice.


However, I do think (know) you learn a lot in law school.

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Dany » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:35 pm

Bless wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you won't learn anything in law school.

lol

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby chup » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:35 pm

Guchster wrote:
Renne Walker wrote:If law school rankings didn’t matter, we’d all be living at home or in a vacation resort attending the area’s cheapest school.


USNWR are the only rankings that exist objectively or subjectively, AMIRITE?

A CHALLENGER APPEARS.

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Postby chup » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:36 pm

Bless wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you won't learn anything in law school.

I don't think you know the definition of "fathom."

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:43 pm

chup wrote:
Bless wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you won't learn anything in law school.

I don't think you know the definition of "fathom."


http://youtu.be/D58LpHBnvsI

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Re: Rankings are stupid. Calm down.

Postby Guchster » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Dany wrote:
Bless wrote:
Dany wrote:Because "best legal education" is stupid. You don't learn anything in law school. You need to go where there are the best job prospects.

This is true. When you're as smart as Dany Boy and you universally knew the way the law worked in all fields before law school orientation was even fathomed, which of course we all did, you won't learn anything in law school.

lol


wat is a "dany boy"?




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