JCFindley wrote: romothesavior wrote:
Azmatt wrote:Something concerning about him citing craigslist as a reliable source for reliable NJ law perspective....
Your wilful ignorance is kind of pathetic. You don't want to hear anything you don't already believe. You just want validation of your decision, and deride even practicing attorneys who tell you the cold hard truth. Enjoy Rutgers and subsequent debt peonage.
Sadsituation, please stick around TLS and continue sharing your perspective. This is great stuff, and some will listen.
Actually I am listening and listening hard.
The craiglist ad is actually quite real and not just indicative of the law in profession that is in the toilet but read around and you will find almost all the "elite" careers of days gone by are hurting. (perhaps the medical field is an exception.) Technology has turned many jobs to crap. Think it is rosy for architects? Not so much. Airline pilots? I might as well be sadsituation for that career field. Pharmacists? They will have jobs but how well does wallyworld pay as the walamartization of America continues? Software programmers? I hope you made your money in it's glory days and own an NBA team by now because that is on it's way down. Hell, even the military is laying people off.
I don't discount what he is saying at all and may well find my self with a useless JD that will be a nice conversation piece as I wait tables at Outback. I am seriously considering not going at all.
On the other hand it is something I have always wanted to do. I am walking into this with my eyes wide open (and won't take any additional debt doing it.) I think the OP has his eyes open and knows the risks. There are risks in every profession and very few become that special snow flake or rock star. I would go so far as to say most people hate their jobs and sludge through just to get by. (Yes, the difference being the amount of debt and time it took to get the job.)
Not sure I even have a point to all my ramblings, but yeah, I do appreciate what sad is saying whether I decide to go ahead or just move to Montana and be a lumber jack.
Oddly enough, he didn't actually deter me. I can fill this thread with anecdotal evidence of guys who, through perserverence, overcame their "less than t50" stigma while moving out of region and landing decent 55-75k jobs. But, that's not credited. Ancecdotal evidence just doesn't mean too much on an internet forum. Sorry. With his ,presumably, valuable perspective he didn't actually reveal much to us. Saying something is a bad choice and attacking my credentials isn't the same as actually disputing readily available data that would indicate a seemingly more quantifiable reality.
He asked for a few postings. I found a few postings. However, the walls of text he provided indicate a complete lack of insight. I never said that I would only settle for 100k+. I never said it was likely or that I still wouldn't seek that profession if 50-60k was what I could expect. I already elucidated my financial situation and it's not a terrible risk to take to do what I want. What I want to do for a living and the means to get there are within my reach. Whether or not i'll find the ideal jobs that go along with this, is debatable. This, I also illustrated and is clearly understood. I've worked and supported myself through the financial crisis. I've been laid off. I've perservered. I've overcome debt and went back to undergrad and done well. I've sought advice perspective from attorneys in a state with a much more dire law market than NJ. Even they have pushed me to seek law. Their perspective is infinitly more valuable.
For someone in a professional career that deals with details, you did a terrible job paying attention to them. Your diction is where my pushback comes from. If I felt you truly gave a crap about conveying your opinion, again, I would listen. However, your rancor indicates otherwise. In fact, if you must know, my LSAT wasn't terrible. Underperforming because I needed to make up from mistakes in my early undergrad and underperforming well below median are two different things.
But, again, I do appreciate the input.