Guys, thanks! You have all been most helpful.
jim-green wrote:But does NLJ250 = Biglaw? As I said earlier, Berkeley's website shows 30% placed into >500 size firms and 45% placed into NLJ250. So NLJ250 is not >500 size firms. NYU's website shows 51% placed into >500 size firms.
My mistake, I was looking at GULC's website where I am also accepted. GULC has 30% accepted into >500 size firms, and Boalt has 40% accepted into >500 size firms. Hence if NLJ250 says 45% of Boalt is accepted, then the numbers between Berkeley's website and NLJ250 indeed match up.
yeast master wrote:OP, You'll be just fine at Boalt. Even at my school, which is ranked in the 40s, bio PhDs are getting a lot of good offers. And the bay area and Silicon Valley have plenty of biotech IP jobs that pay 160k.
Thanks, this is helpful! However, at my age, I am not trying to go where I'll be fine. I am sure I will be fine at Pitt too. I am trying to go to my best option in view of my personal situation. Just trying to explain here why I am asking these questions.
BruceWayne wrote:But that applies more when you're talking about schools with huge overall reputation differences. Chicago and NYU don't have a significant difference in overall reputation vs. Boalt unless you're talking about each school's home market. And Boalt is such a power house in regards to IP that, unless he's focused on the Chicago or NYC markets (and honestly in the case of the latter market even then I would lean Boalt for IP in his situation) it just makes more sense.
What if towards the end of law school I want to try for a clerkship or teaching position. (Just keeping my options open here). Then wouldn't it be better to go to Chicago or NYU?
Dignan wrote:Yes, many Boalties go to firms with fewer than 500 lawyers. But keep in mind that many of those smaller firms are very competitive, with bonuses and/or base salaries that exceed those of the larger firms. As of 2010, firms like Boies, Quinn, and Irell had fewer than 500 lawyers, but they offered better compensation than most of the >500 size firms. And there are several elite litigation boutiques in SF (e.g., Keker, Farella, Lieff Cabraser) that regularly hire Boalties. Although these firms have fewer than 100 lawyers, they are generally more prestigious than the larger law firms. Any Berkeley grad with a job at one of those firms could easily get multiple offers from >500 size firms.
Wow, thanks! this is really good to know because I had no idea about this at all. I gotta lotta learnin' to do. What I had been told is Biglaw = >500 size firm = $160K, and pay reduces proportionately to size of firm. I had no idea that 'many of those smaller firms are very competitive, with bonuses and/or base salaries that exceed those of the larger firms.' I was told Boutiques pay low.
bk1 wrote:There are some boutiques that are biglaw (in that they pay market) but aren't NLJ250 (e.g. Keker as noted above).
Again, this is helpful, becuase i had no idea about this.
Dignan wrote:Plus, many of the IP profs at Boalt are well-connected and highly respected by practitioners, and some of those profs will make calls on behalf of students during OCI.
This would be very useful because this is how it works in the PhD arena.
Actually this is something I wanted to ask you folks about. How much of OCI success is determined by resume and grades, and how much by soft interview skills? I don't have any interview experience since I went from high school to BS to MS to PhD, and then my PhD advisor got me my present job without the need for an interview. I am not confident with competitive interviews, where you may be required to shine and be very smooth.