Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby Ludo! » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:58 pm

sweetstuff1555 wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:
sweetstuff1555 wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:If you knew how terrible these two schools are you'd realize that people telling him not to go to either one are doing him a favor


Well he didn't actually ask for that type of favor, so why did everyone find it necessary to share that type of opinion? I swear, people on this site act like they have a personal interest in the success of someone deciding to go to law school. The OP did not ask for your donations to fund his ability to go to one of these "terrible" law schools. I'm sure he has weighed the pros and cons, and decided that he is passionate enough about law to risk furthering his education.

But of course you all know best, so please continue with the bashing...


I do take a personal interest in the success of someone deciding to go to law school. I think that's the motivation of a lot of people who post on TLS regularly. What's wrong with that? If OP doesn't want the advice he doesn't have to take it, and if you don't like it you don't have to read it. OP has clearly not weighed the pros and cons. If he had, he wouldn't be considering these schools.


That is absolutely ridiculous, and you know it. I know people who have come from both law schools who are successful practicing attorneys. So I have seen firsthand proof that it is entirely possible to be successful coming out of either one of those schools. Is it more difficult? Sure! But just because a path is difficult does not mean someone should give up on that path entirely, as many people have suggested.

Making someone feel inadequate, or doomed for failure, is not helpful. These are your opinions, and good for you for having one, but it isn't always necessary to spew said opinion whenever you think the situation calls for it. How about we all try to support one another, and root for the other's success? Instead of just beating people down about a decision that has nothing to do with them.


I know a guy who won a jackpot at a Vegas casino but if someone was asking me which slot machine they should pump $100K+ into I would tell them not to.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby traehekat » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:01 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:I know a guy who won a jackpot at a Vegas casino but if someone was asking me which slot machine they should pump $100K+ into I would tell them not to.


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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby zanda » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:10 pm

Don't go.

Respectfully,

Unemployed T6 3L in top 1/3 of class, with a lot of classmates in a similar position

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby bobbyh1919 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:18 pm

zanda wrote:Don't go.

Respectfully,

Unemployed T6 3L in top 1/3 of class, with a lot of classmates in a similar position


Scary shit right there. How you can read that and even think about these schools is beyond me.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby JamesChapman23 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:26 pm

I say go. Maybe you can strike it rich by being a political activist like Fluke.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:14 pm

sweetstuff1555 wrote:That is absolutely ridiculous, and you know it. I know people who have come from both law schools who are successful practicing attorneys. So I have seen firsthand proof that it is entirely possible to be successful coming out of either one of those schools.

This is probably the most annoying 0L argument on TLS. No one has EVER said that getting a job at a TTTT school is impossible. No one. Ever. But it is a numbers game, and the odds are stacked so against you that it is a horrible investment. Not sure why this is so controversial, and your response to it is a just not a good response to the criticism.

I know people who have won money in scratch off tickets too. Doesn't mean purchasing $200,000 worth of the Triple 7 scratchers is a good plan.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm

sweetstuff1555 wrote:The OP did not ask for your donations to fund his ability to go to one of these "terrible" law schools

Unless he's using government funded, subsidized loans. In which case, yeah, we are kinda making donations to fund his ability to go to one of these terrible, terrible law schools.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby bk1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:22 pm

romothesavior wrote:Doesn't mean purchasing $200,000 worth of the Triple 7 scratchers is a good plan.


It does sound more fun than law school.

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Postby Jwb0711 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:13 pm

JamesChapman23 wrote:I say go. Maybe you can strike it rich by being a political activist like Fluke.



I lol'd.

She is such a joke. If I was a student at Georgetown I would be so embarrassed.

Same with those girls from Fordham Law setting up a birth control clinic outside the law school because the school is Catholic. Seriously?

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby pugilistjd » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:16 pm

OP, you should find alum from both schools who are jobless, underemployed, or graduated at median or below and talk to them. Talking to a handful of folks who did well out of these schools won't give you the full picture. And don't post on a website called Top Law Schools asking for advice about TTT schools.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby bk1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:23 pm

Jwb0711 wrote:
JamesChapman23 wrote:I say go. Maybe you can strike it rich by being a political activist like Fluke.



I lol'd.

She is such a joke. If I was a student at Georgetown I would be so embarrassed.

Same with those girls from Fordham Law setting up a birth control clinic outside the law school because the school is Catholic. Seriously?


Must make you feel big to anonymously attack someone who had the courage to stand up for what they believe in in a public forum (something you clearly don't have the courage to do).

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby splitbrain » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:29 pm

Jwb0711 wrote:
JamesChapman23 wrote:I say go. Maybe you can strike it rich by being a political activist like Fluke.



I lol'd.

She is such a joke. If I was a student at Georgetown I would be so embarrassed.

Same with those girls from Fordham Law setting up a birth control clinic outside the law school because the school is Catholic. Seriously?

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Not sure if troll...

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby Jwb0711 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:58 pm

bk1 wrote:
Jwb0711 wrote:
JamesChapman23 wrote:I say go. Maybe you can strike it rich by being a political activist like Fluke.



I lol'd.

She is such a joke. If I was a student at Georgetown I would be so embarrassed.

Same with those girls from Fordham Law setting up a birth control clinic outside the law school because the school is Catholic. Seriously?


Must make you feel big to anonymously attack someone who had the courage to stand up for what they believe in in a public forum (something you clearly don't have the courage to do).


I do speak up (or act upon) in regards to my conservative beliefs on a regular basis when the opportunities arise and volunteer at political campaigns when I can. I am not afraid to stand up and say not to high taxation and big government- even when I am the only one standing and saying that. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to speak on national T.V. or in front of the Supreme Court. It doesn't mean I am not willing to do so should that opportunity arise at some point (Something you clearly hadn't thought about).

So if you are trying to imply... that somehow I am a coward because CBS/CNN and the rest of the media has not showed up on my doorstep asking for my opinion on the issue? You are very mistaken.

EDIT: I am not sure why I am replying to someone with 14k posts on here... 14k posts? Seriously man?

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby sunynp » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:01 pm

Whatever happened to OP? I guess he isn't coming back.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby bk1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:01 pm

Jwb0711 wrote:I do speak up (or act upon) in regards to my conservative beliefs on a regular basis when the opportunities arise and volunteer at political campaigns when I can. I am not afraid to stand up and say not to high taxation and big government- even when I am the only one standing and saying that. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to speak on national T.V. or in front of the Supreme Court. It doesn't mean I am not willing to do so should that opportunity arise at some point (Something you clearly hadn't thought about).

So if you are trying to imply... that somehow I am a coward because CBS/CNN and the rest of the media has not showed up on my doorstep asking for my opinion on the issue? You are very mistaken.

So would you like to take this opportunity to post your name so you can stand behind your criticisms of Ms. Fluke? Or are you going to continue being an anonymous douchebag?

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby bk1 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:02 pm

sunynp wrote:Whatever happened to OP? I guess he isn't coming back.


lol I doubt people want to keep listening to people telling them they're wrong.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby Jwb0711 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:04 pm

bk1 wrote:
Jwb0711 wrote:I do speak up (or act upon) in regards to my conservative beliefs on a regular basis when the opportunities arise and volunteer at political campaigns when I can. I am not afraid to stand up and say not to high taxation and big government- even when I am the only one standing and saying that. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to speak on national T.V. or in front of the Supreme Court. It doesn't mean I am not willing to do so should that opportunity arise at some point (Something you clearly hadn't thought about).

So if you are trying to imply... that somehow I am a coward because CBS/CNN and the rest of the media has not showed up on my doorstep asking for my opinion on the issue? You are very mistaken.

So would you like to take this opportunity to post your name so you can stand behind your criticisms of Ms. Fluke? Or are you going to continue being an anonymous douchebag?


Give me a break.

Nah, I just prefer to annoy ignorant liberals like you :)

What's the matter - your tolerance run out for the day or something?

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby MDLC » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:13 pm

mgb2543 wrote:Besides these basically for-profit schools being the bad guys, you could also include those people who encourage the naive to attend a school that gives you percentage chance of getting a meaningful legal job somewhere close to the chances of winning the lottery.

And to sweetstuff: perhaps you know graduates of both schools that are successful practicing attorneys, but chances are those people graduated a while back when the legal market was decent. When there are kids in the top 20% of USD's class not getting jobs, you can bet that a graduate of Cal Western is getting no job. Call us rude, but those are just the cold, hard facts


If I've read correctly, you're on the site because your spouse goes to USD? And that gives you some kind of knowledge about local law schools? That's cute.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby NoleinNY » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:34 pm

vinylx wrote:
traehekat wrote:
vinylx wrote:usc, ucla, loyola, pepperdine, uci, southwestern and chapman are within 20 miles of each other.


never knew this, gross.


I forgot La Verne and Whitter too lol


That's incorrect. Pepperdine to Irvine (the farthest two apart) is more like 70 miles. (Not saying it makes any of those schools a better or worse choice, but someone was wrong on the Internet.)

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby atashakor » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:40 pm

Perhaps this complaint may make ur decision easier:

BTW filed a month ago

http://www.anziskalaw.com/uploads/Filed ... plaint.pdf

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby mgb2543 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:33 pm

If I've read correctly, you're on the site because your spouse goes to USD? And that gives you some kind of knowledge about local law schools? That's cute.[/quote]

Well, that and the fact that I have throughly researched each school in SD as a prospective student, know dozens of local attorneys, and tons of law students in this town. But, by all means, if you think you are more qualified to give a more accurate representation of the local job environment as well as the employment prospects coming out of the schools, let's hear it.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby lobolawyer » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:00 am

A year may seem like an eternity, especially in terms of planning to attend law schoo, but attending either of these schools is ill advised. CA is over saturated with lawyers and a degree from these schools won't have much portability. Take a year off, study your arse off and attend a better school.

Listen to the voices of reason. It'll save you $$ and peace of mind in the long run.

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby MDLC » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:02 pm

mgb2543 wrote:Well, that and the fact that I have throughly researched each school in SD as a prospective student, know dozens of local attorneys, and tons of law students in this town. But, by all means, if you think you are more qualified to give a more accurate representation of the local job environment as well as the employment prospects coming out of the schools, let's hear it.

You didn't represent yourself as someone who has done any type of research. You said, "Coming from someone who lives in San Diego and has a spouse in the top 2% of the USD c/o '12."

I've also done my research and worked for a number of attorneys in San Diego. I have heard a number of employers say they prefer Cal Western students over USD students. I've also heard people say they wouldn't consider TJSL or Cal Western students. Everyone is bound to have a different experience based on who they know but to trot around like some law school know-it-all (and act like it's going to get you somewhere) just because your spouse is in the top of his class at USD Law is pretty self-righteous of you. In your, most disgusting words, "no offense" and, "just saying."

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Re: Southwestern at sticker or Calwestern with ($)?

Postby romothesavior » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:05 pm

MDLC wrote:
mgb2543 wrote:Well, that and the fact that I have throughly researched each school in SD as a prospective student, know dozens of local attorneys, and tons of law students in this town. But, by all means, if you think you are more qualified to give a more accurate representation of the local job environment as well as the employment prospects coming out of the schools, let's hear it.

You didn't represent yourself as someone who has done any type of research. You said, "Coming from someone who lives in San Diego and has a spouse in the top 2% of the USD c/o '12."

I've also done my research and worked for a number of attorneys in San Diego. I have heard a number of employers say they prefer Cal Western students over USD students. I've also heard people say they wouldn't consider TJSL or Cal Western students. Everyone is bound to have a different experience based on who they know but to trot around like some law school know-it-all (and act like it's going to get you somewhere) just because your spouse is in the top of his class at USD Law is pretty self-righteous of you. In your, most disgusting words, "no offense" and, "just saying."

However you want to break it down, both of these schools objectively suck and are financial suicide at these prices.

No offense. Just saying.




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