f0bolous wrote: No13baby wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:Yeah this.
I know that top Seattle firms prefer Univ. of Washington law students over Harvard Law students. If UW>Harvard in Seattle, then I'd bet money that L&C>Illinois in Portland.
Seattle is that insular even with ties? Fuuuuuuuuuuccckkkkkk.
i don't think it's necessarily that they prefer the local kids over HLS kids with ties. it's just that all the firms probably wish to keep some relationship with the law school, so a certain number of spots are reserved for these schools, regardless of the economy. i know in Atlanta, certain spots are always reserved for Emory and UGA students, even if it's to the detriment of T14/Vandy. i'd imagine something similar at Seattle where most spots are probably going to the top of the class at UW with everyone else (including HYS) battling it out for the remaining spots.
To be fair, it's also because HLS students do a horrible job accepting offers extended.
To put numbers to it:
Note: I'm going to obscure these numbers and the firms.
In 2009, there were ~60 total bids for the 9 Seattle firms that came to Harvard OCI (this is fairly low, Ropes & Gray-Boston often nets over 70 bids by itself). There were probably a lot of duplicates involved, but I have no way of separating out individuals. The highest number of bids was 16 for one firm, however, suggesting around 16 people. After the lottery & add period, there were still ~60 interviews. There were three total callbacks at 3 firms, basically 3 of the biggest ones in Seattle. One offer was extended, and then rejected.
In 2010, there ~50 total bids, with the most for any single firm being 9, making me think there are maybe only 9 individuals. After the lottery(no adds were done, apparently), 35 interviews, with the most being 7 at one firm. After that, five callbacks were extended, among similar, though not the exact same three firms. All 5 callbacks were accepted and 3 offers were extended. All three offers were rejected.
In 2011, I had a friend who really wanted Seattle. I don't know how many callbacks were received, but my friend received one offer reallyyy long after the callback (and after expiring deadlines at other firms) and accepted a V5 firm before they ever got back to my friend.