Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

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Which school should I go to?

Hofstra
9
28%
Miami
9
28%
Villanova
12
38%
Syracuse
2
6%
 
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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:59 pm

flem wrote:
Hova wrote:I also plan on transferring out after 1L to attend a better school in NYC like Fordham and Brooklyn.


lolwut


You don't know how to read? Must not cause you type like a retard.

and goodfaith, you don't even know my situation or anything. You've assumed so many things already with your two words. All I've asked is for you to give your best opinion and analysis on which out of these schools I should attend. You stupid man? Answer the question instead of spending time trying to find that picture.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:01 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
Linsanity wrote:Rad Lulz you do realize nobody on this board likes you right? The PM chain messages that are sent to me with people ripping the things you say are hilarious. No job has great job odds right now. The economy is bad. But, if you work hard and beast your interviews and get good experience, you will do just fine. Law education gets you into an interview, the rest is up to you to impress.


Pretty sure he's just trying to help you. Also, you won't get anything for working hard. You'll get things if you're incredibly lucky and end up at the top of your class.

It's not even about working "hard." It's about working smart.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Mr. Somebody » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:01 pm

Linsanity wrote:They don't understand that for those of us who will go to schools like Hofstra and Villanova ranked in the middle of Tier 2, we will probably start out with a 70k job, and have to work a few years before we get our 6 figure salary.


I'm wondering what you're basing this on.

http://law.hofstra.edu/studentlife/care ... stics.html

Using Hofstra's own statistics, only 50 out of 350 grads (14%) are confirmed to be making $75k+.
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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Linsanity » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:02 pm

That article you just posted is from crappy schools like Quinnipiac bro. It isn't from solid 2nd tier places like Hofstra and Villanova.

What school do you all go to if you wouldn't mind disclosing? Understandable if you would rather not share.

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Postby HeavenWood » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:03 pm

Linsanity wrote:That article you just posted is from crappy schools like Quinnipiac bro. It isn't from solid 2nd tier places like Hofstra and Villanova.

What school do you all go to if you wouldn't mind disclosing? Understandable if you would rather not share.

Laid it on just a little too thick there, trollheim.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby flem » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:03 pm

Linsanity wrote:That article you just posted is from crappy schools like Quinnipiac bro. It isn't from solid 2nd tier places like Hofstra and Villanova.

What school do you all go to if you wouldn't mind disclosing? Understandable if you would rather not share.


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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby quiver » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:05 pm

Linsanity wrote:That article you just posted is from crappy schools like Quinnipiac bro. It isn't from solid 2nd tier places like Hofstra and Villanova.
There is really not much difference between schools outside the T25 or so; they're all regional at that point and at least Quinnipiac is the 3rd best school in it's market (with Yalies likely going elsewhere)
Hova wrote:I also plan on transferring out after 1L to attend a better school in NYC like Fordham and Brooklyn.
Never ever attend a school planning to transfer (even if you're only planning to transfer to schools that are marginally better).

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby PDaddy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:12 pm

Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you wouldn't mind practicing. With Miami, you will have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. If your heart is set on practicing in NY, you may want to stay in NY.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.
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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:13 pm

PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. That's Miami.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.

Cause he smells like buttermilk?

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:17 pm

PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you wouldn't mind practicing. With Miami, you will have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. If your heart is set on practicing in NY, you may want to stay in NY.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.


Thanks PDaddy. I was leaning hard on Miami because of all the factors you mentioned but my goal in three years is still to work in NYC. It seems your response only confirms my decision to attend Hofstra. I would love to attend Miami but like you said, the chance of me coming back to work in NY is rare. Thanks again.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby PDaddy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:22 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. That's Miami.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.


Cause he smells like buttermilk?


Please accept my apology for any offensive stereotypical remarks. I was extremely bothered by the racism I saw and was exposed to on this site (some of which was promoted by a black woman named Gaia), so I responded in kind. People on this cite have stereotyped the black applicants (especially the males) as being dumb and unqualified for the law schools to which they gain admission. Given the choice, I would much rather be told that I smell like a particular food than be called dumb. Time to put the buttermilk back in the fridge, dude. By perpetuating that conversation, you look petty.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby flem » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:23 pm

Hova wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you wouldn't mind practicing. With Miami, you will have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. If your heart is set on practicing in NY, you may want to stay in NY.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.


Thanks PDaddy. I was leaning hard on Miami because of all the factors you mentioned but my goal in three years is still to work in NYC. It seems your response only confirms my decision to attend Hofstra. I would love to attend Miami but like you said, the chance of me coming back to work in NY is rare. Thanks again.


Why the fuck would you think it's a good idea to target a market that has all the T14 kids tripping over eachother to get there? In addition, Fordham, Cardozo, Brooklyn, and let's be honest, Seton Hall, both Rugers campuses, and St John's are ahead of you in the pecking order. It's also ridiculously expensive.

If you want to rationalize a shitty decision, go ahead. But at least go in with your eyes open. You won't be able to sue your school for falsely representative employment stats in 3 years.

Oh yeah, and Hofstra is currently getting sued. So there's that. Just go into this with your eyes open, broheim.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:28 pm

PDaddy wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. That's Miami.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.


Cause he smells like buttermilk?


Please accept my apology for any offensive stereotypical remarks. I was extremely bothered by the racism I saw and was exposed to on this site (some of which was promoted by a black woman named Gaia), so I responded in kind. People on this cite have stereotyped the black applicants (especially the males) as being dumb and unqualified for the law schools to which they gain admission. Given the choice, I would much rather be told that I smell like a particular food than be called dumb. Time to put the buttermilk back in the fridge, dude. By perpetuating that conversation, you look petty.

The whole "white people smell like buttermilk" thing sounds less like a stereotype than some whacked-out notion you, and only you, ascribe to. I also think most of the people on the "cite" you're referring to were infrequent posters and/or shitty trolls. You became notorious for a reason.

That said, it takes a real man to admit when he's wrong, so I'm happy to leave it at that. No more buttermilk references on my end. :wink:

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:37 pm

flem wrote:
Hova wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Of the schools you listed, Miami is probably your best bet, and you can transfer to any school from just about any school if you have the grades. That having been said, go where you might not mind getting "stuck" for three years, as well as where you wouldn't mind practicing. With Miami, you will have decent job prospects, good-looking people, lots of activity, access to a major market outside of the school's home market, and a reasonable chance of doing well. If your heart is set on practicing in NY, you may want to stay in NY.

If you go to the other schools, you are pretty much limited to their home markets. Miami at least gives you a chance at not only Miami, but Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta, NC, and D.C. The latter three markets are slim, but you can get there. If you do extremely well, you can get to NY from Miami, but it is rare.

If you go to Hofstra, plan on practicing in NY and only NY; if you go to 'Nova, plan on practicing in Philly.

Oh...and if you go to Penn St. spit on Sandusky for me.


Thanks PDaddy. I was leaning hard on Miami because of all the factors you mentioned but my goal in three years is still to work in NYC. It seems your response only confirms my decision to attend Hofstra. I would love to attend Miami but like you said, the chance of me coming back to work in NY is rare. Thanks again.


Why the fuck would you think it's a good idea to target a market that has all the T14 kids tripping over eachother to get there? In addition, Fordham, Cardozo, Brooklyn, and let's be honest, Seton Hall, both Rugers campuses, and St John's are ahead of you in the pecking order. It's also ridiculously expensive.

If you want to rationalize a shitty decision, go ahead. But at least go in with your eyes open. You won't be able to sue your school for falsely representative employment stats in 3 years.

Oh yeah, and Hofstra is currently getting sued. So there's that. Just go into this with your eyes open, broheim.


Nicee bro finally an educated response from you. I thought you were another dumbass that loves trolling forums. You think I'm stupid? You think I don't know NYU, Columbia and all these other schools are ahead of Hofstra? I said help me pick one of these schools. I didn't ask you how hard it is for a hofstra grad to get a job in NYC. My eyes are wide open and they don't see any help from you. I'm not trying to rationalize shit. I'm trying to decide where I want to attend between the schools I've listed. I'm attending no matter so either give me advice on which school to attend or don't bother me with your bullshit.

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Postby 20130312 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:38 pm

Please come back crying in May 2013 when you get median pwned.

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Postby flem » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:39 pm

Hova wrote:Nicee bro finally an educated response from you. I thought you were another dumbass that loves trolling forums. You think I'm stupid? You think I don't know NYU, Columbia and all these other schools are ahead of Hofstra? I said help me pick one of these schools. I didn't ask you how hard it is for a hofstra grad to get a job in NYC. My eyes are wide open and they don't see any help from you. I'm not trying to rationalize shit. I'm trying to decide where I want to attend between the schools I've listed. I'm attending no matter so either give me advice on which school to attend or don't bother me with your bullshit.


Do you have scholarships to any of these schools? If not, you're going to be a slave to T14-type debt for a TTT education and job prospects.

Miami is going to have the strongest job placement and reputation and their's is sketchy at best.

Why would you be attending no matter what?

And why would you give serious consideration to a school getting sued for egregiously falsifying job statistics? Hofstra should be out immediately.

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Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:42 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:Please come back crying in May 2013 when you get median pwned.


lol i don't know how anybody that makes a salary that within the median range is considered "pwned". Maybe to you it is because your life sucks. As for me, I'll be good. Don't worry about how much money I make or won't make.

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Mr. Somebody » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:43 pm

Hova wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:Please come back crying in May 2013 when you get median pwned.


lol i don't know how anybody that makes a salary that within the median range is considered "pwned". Maybe to you it is because your life sucks. As for me, I'll be good. Don't worry about how much money I make or won't make.


You'll be very lucky to make a salary in Hofstra's reported "median" range.

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Postby 20130312 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:44 pm

Hova wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:Please come back crying in May 2013 when you get median pwned.


lol i don't know how anybody that makes a salary that within the median range is considered "pwned". Maybe to you it is because your life sucks. As for me, I'll be good. Don't worry about how much money I make or won't make.


You won't have a job, so I don't even know why we're discussing salary.

ETA: Gah, scooped.

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Postby rad lulz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:45 pm

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:46 pm

flem wrote:
Hova wrote:Nicee bro finally an educated response from you. I thought you were another dumbass that loves trolling forums. You think I'm stupid? You think I don't know NYU, Columbia and all these other schools are ahead of Hofstra? I said help me pick one of these schools. I didn't ask you how hard it is for a hofstra grad to get a job in NYC. My eyes are wide open and they don't see any help from you. I'm not trying to rationalize shit. I'm trying to decide where I want to attend between the schools I've listed. I'm attending no matter so either give me advice on which school to attend or don't bother me with your bullshit.


Do you have scholarships to any of these schools? If not, you're going to be a slave to T14-type debt for a TTT education and job prospects.

Miami is going to have the strongest job placement and reputation and their's is sketchy at best.

Why would you be attending no matter what?

And why would you give serious consideration to a school getting sued for egregiously falsifying job statistics? Hofstra should be out immediately.


When you say Miami has the strongest job placement and reputation, thats only for Miami right? How far would it reach in NYC? Like I said, I'm going to be in NYC after three years of law school no matter what. Hofstra is the only school that took me in NYC. Well, some others did but they're not even worth mentioning.

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Postby flem » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:48 pm

Hova wrote:
flem wrote:
Hova wrote:Nicee bro finally an educated response from you. I thought you were another dumbass that loves trolling forums. You think I'm stupid? You think I don't know NYU, Columbia and all these other schools are ahead of Hofstra? I said help me pick one of these schools. I didn't ask you how hard it is for a hofstra grad to get a job in NYC. My eyes are wide open and they don't see any help from you. I'm not trying to rationalize shit. I'm trying to decide where I want to attend between the schools I've listed. I'm attending no matter so either give me advice on which school to attend or don't bother me with your bullshit.


Do you have scholarships to any of these schools? If not, you're going to be a slave to T14-type debt for a TTT education and job prospects.

Miami is going to have the strongest job placement and reputation and their's is sketchy at best.

Why would you be attending no matter what?

And why would you give serious consideration to a school getting sued for egregiously falsifying job statistics? Hofstra should be out immediately.


When you say Miami has the strongest job placement and reputation, thats only for Miami right? How far would it reach in NYC? Like I said, I'm going to be in NYC after three years of law school no matter what. Hofstra is the only school that took me in NYC. Well, some others did but they're not even worth mentioning.


1) Decent for South Florida but Florida is in economic shambles
2) It wouldn't unless you finished at the literal top of your class
3) Hofstra should be in the same category as other schools not worth mentioning, probably NYLS/Tuoro/Pace as they are all equally objectively shitty and expensive

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Postby rad lulz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:50 pm

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Re: Hofstra vs. Villanova vs. U.Miami. Help Plz

Postby Hova » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:56 pm

Thanks guys, it only took so many responses to finally get real advice. I'll most likely be going to Hofstra then. If you guys are ever in NYC, visit me. Actually don't, I hate you guys. Just kidding




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