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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby thelawyler » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:06 am

bok92 wrote:Does anyone know the actual points separating H and S?

You guys are funny. I think in real life "rankings" H will always be #1.

The H-Bomb is unstoppable.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby SpoonForkSpork » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:08 am

Blessedassurance wrote:
bok92 wrote:Anyone have thoughts about Stanford passing Harvard? Another short-lived changed? Could lead to movements at Harvard to come back up? Kagan leaving?


Harvard's eliteness is forever, which is why they can afford to take cheap shots at it from time to time to sell their magazine.

It doesn't matter where they place Harvard. It's Harvard.

Harvard was 5th in 1990. Chicago was especially rigorous that year.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Tanicius » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:10 am

minnbills wrote:
Ded Precedent wrote:
minnbills wrote:Nah this is the beginning of Harvard's slide. It will join CCN and only stanford/yale will be truly "elite."

I've already started to refer to it as YS.............H.


Good first step but YS/HCCN is probably most appropriate.


Holy shit. The universe is changing.

YS | HCCN | PBV | MD | GC

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:12 am

Tanicius wrote:
Holy shit. The universe is changing.

YS | HCCN | PBV | MD | GC


Texas and Vanderbilt are dwarf planets, Yale is the sun haha

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby bok92 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:12 am

Tanicius wrote:
minnbills wrote:
Ded Precedent wrote:
minnbills wrote:Nah this is the beginning of Harvard's slide. It will join CCN and only stanford/yale will be truly "elite."

I've already started to refer to it as YS.............H.


Good first step but YS/HCCN is probably most appropriate.


Holy shit. The universe is changing.

YS | HCCN | PBV | MD | GC


Ha, let's not get ahead of ourselves. S and H have traded places or been tied numerous times in recent years.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby moneybagsphd » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:14 am

Tanicius wrote:
minnbills wrote:
Ded Precedent wrote:
minnbills wrote:Nah this is the beginning of Harvard's slide. It will join CCN and only stanford/yale will be truly "elite."

I've already started to refer to it as YS.............H.


Good first step but YS/HCCN is probably most appropriate.


Holy shit. The universe is changing.

YS | HCCN | PBV | MD | GC

you forgot northwestern. also you're dumb.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaymayne » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:15 am

Response to AZ State @ 26:

First, I go to ASU so I may be biased; however, I visited ~a half dozen schools last year. Some that currently/formerly ranked higher and others ranked lower that accepted me. I went back and forth for months. Rank alone should not be the basis for anyone's decision. These jump around every year, and you have to weigh more factors than what's on a resume. Your scores will get you into law school, but (often) little of that matters once you're in the door.

Think about what you want with a J.D. Go where you'll find that opportunity! 2 Selling points for me: (1) Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the US and ASU is the best school in the region. i.e. Phoenix has jobs. You WILL primarily be recruited regionally with exception to the very top schools. Go to a state you could imagine living & working for a while. (2) #8 in writing is huge because that's how you'll be judged throughout your entire career.

I assume these things were accounted for in the rankings. I could go on, but I expected this jump. Here's the last entering class profile if you're curious: http://law.asu.edu/admissions/Admission ... ofile.aspx

Best of luck, and I hope you all make the right decision for you!

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby 071816 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:19 am

Jaymayne wrote:Response to AZ State @ 26:

First, I go to ASU so I may be am biased; however, I visited ~a half dozen schools last year. Some that currently/formerly ranked higher and others ranked lower that accepted me. I went back and forth for months. Rank alone should not be the basis for anyone's decision. These jump around every year, and you have to weigh more factors than what's on a resume. Your scores will get you into law school, but (often) little of that matters once you're in the door.

Think about what you want with a J.D. Go where you'll find that opportunity! 2 Selling points for me: (1) Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the US and ASU is the best school in the region. i.e. Phoenix has jobs. You WILL primarily be recruited regionally with exception to the very top schools. Go to a state you could imagine living & working for a while. (2) #8 in writing is huge because that's how you'll be judged throughout your entire career.

I assume these things were accounted for in the rankings. I could go on, but I expected this jump. Here's the last entering class profile if you're curious: http://law.asu.edu/admissions/Admission ... ofile.aspx

Best of luck, and I hope you all make the right decision for you!


ftfy

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby omninode » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:29 am

US News totally jumped the shark this year. I don't know how anyone can see such drastic shifts and think the rankings still have value. I mean, no offense to the University of Washington, but a jump from 30 to 20 in one year? I just don't buy it. That's just one example of the nonsense found throughout this list. They need to improve their methods or at least find a way to guarantee that all information reported by schools is accurate.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:30 am

minnbills wrote:
Ded Precedent wrote:
minnbills wrote:Nah this is the beginning of Harvard's slide. It will join CCN and only stanford/yale will be truly "elite."

I've already started to refer to it as YS.............H.

Good first step but YS/HCCN is probably most appropriate.

Given the fact that there is a 4 point gap between Y and S, and only a 1 point gap between each of the SHCCN schools, Y/SHCCN is clearly more appropriate.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby sumtimesuwonder » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:31 am

Temple= ownership of philly? now 43 spots ahead of the other ones?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaymayne » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:31 am

chimp wrote:
Jaymayne wrote:Response to AZ State @ 26:

First, I go to ASU so I may be am biased; however, I visited ~a half dozen schools last year. Some that currently/formerly ranked higher and others ranked lower that accepted me. I went back and forth for months. Rank alone should not be the basis for anyone's decision. These jump around every year, and you have to weigh more factors than what's on a resume. Your scores will get you into law school, but (often) little of that matters once you're in the door.

Think about what you want with a J.D. Go where you'll find that opportunity! 2 Selling points for me: (1) Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the US and ASU is the best school in the region. i.e. Phoenix has jobs. You WILL primarily be recruited regionally with exception to the very top schools. Go to a state you could imagine living & working for a while. (2) #8 in writing is huge because that's how you'll be judged throughout your entire career.

I assume these things were accounted for in the rankings. I could go on, but I expected this jump. Here's the last entering class profile if you're curious: http://law.asu.edu/admissions/Admission ... ofile.aspx

Best of luck, and I hope you all make the right decision for you!


ftfy


"A negative judgment gives you more satisfaction than praise, provided it smacks of jealousy."

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby bok92 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:32 am

Let me guess, Phil. Deposited at Yale? Thought so.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:33 am

sumtimesuwonder wrote:Temple= ownership of philly? now 43 spots ahead of the other ones?


UPenn.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby 071816 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:33 am

Jaymayne wrote:
chimp wrote:
Jaymayne wrote:Response to AZ State @ 26:

First, I go to ASU so I may be am biased; however, I visited ~a half dozen schools last year. Some that currently/formerly ranked higher and others ranked lower that accepted me. I went back and forth for months. Rank alone should not be the basis for anyone's decision. These jump around every year, and you have to weigh more factors than what's on a resume. Your scores will get you into law school, but (often) little of that matters once you're in the door.

Think about what you want with a J.D. Go where you'll find that opportunity! 2 Selling points for me: (1) Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the US and ASU is the best school in the region. i.e. Phoenix has jobs. You WILL primarily be recruited regionally with exception to the very top schools. Go to a state you could imagine living & working for a while. (2) #8 in writing is huge because that's how you'll be judged throughout your entire career.

I assume these things were accounted for in the rankings. I could go on, but I expected this jump. Here's the last entering class profile if you're curious: http://law.asu.edu/admissions/Admission ... ofile.aspx

Best of luck, and I hope you all make the right decision for you!


ftfy


"A negative judgment gives you more satisfaction than praise, provided it smacks of jealousy."


u got me bro. i'm mad jelly.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:34 am

AntipodeanPhil wrote:Given the fact that there is a 4 point gap between Y and S, and only a 1 point gap between each of the SHCCN schools, Y/SHCCN is clearly more appropriate.


Fair. But SH need to split up.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaymayne » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:38 am

u got me bro. i'm mad jelly.[/quote]

lol touché

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaymayne » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:39 am

chimp wrote:
Jaymayne wrote:
chimp wrote:
Jaymayne wrote:Response to AZ State @ 26:

u got me bro. i'm mad jelly.


lol touché

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Tom Joad » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:42 am

Is ASU still accepting applications?

I got a good scholly in the T12, but if I could get a full ride to a T30 quickly on the rise it might be the smart decision.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaymayne » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:48 am

Tom Joad wrote:Is ASU still accepting applications?

I got a good scholly in the T12, but if I could get a full ride to a T30 quickly on the rise it might be the smart decision.


I'm almost positive they are. And if you're still sending out applications, don't be shy throwing your current scholarship out there when you talk to admissions. Schools will compete for you once you're in.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:49 am

Jaymayne wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Is ASU still accepting applications?

I got a good scholly in the T12, but if I could get a full ride to a T30 quickly on the rise it might be the smart decision.


I'm almost positive they are. And if you're still sending out applications, don't be shy throwing your current scholarship out there when you talk to admissions. Schools will compete for you once you're in.


hahaha

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby SehMeSerrious » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:53 am

Too much to read right now so sorry if this was already brought up but:

I was thinking about this and I think Michigan acceptance might get harder. They have one of the highest acceptance rates and slipped... if they blame the students, they might start getting tougher in admissions to regain their place.

What say ye?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby JustE » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:55 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
Jaymayne wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Is ASU still accepting applications?

I got a good scholly in the T12, but if I could get a full ride to a T30 quickly on the rise it might be the smart decision.


I'm almost positive they are. And if you're still sending out applications, don't be shy throwing your current scholarship out there when you talk to admissions. Schools will compete for you once you're in.


hahaha

This made me funny.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Eliyahu7 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:00 am

I feel sorry for anyone who went to Texas because of ranked 14 last year...

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby 09042014 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:05 am

Eliyahu7 wrote:I feel sorry for anyone who went to Texas because of ranked 14 last year...


I don't. They were idiots.




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