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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:18 am

paulinaporizkova wrote:
debtsucks wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


you dont agree? what about its 30% nlj250 placement? that doesnt count?

paulinaporizkova wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


oh god i miss all this dumbass shit so much sometimes


funny how every other school can get bashed to pieces but as soon as UM is mentioned the white knights come alive

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:19 am

ScrabbleChamp wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


I gotta give you props... You created an account and waited 2 months before trolling... Impressive, but you obviously have some weird problem with Michigan when your first 4 posts serve no purpose other than to attempt to disparage Michigan. Bravo, sir. Incredible patience.



so nlj250 doesnt count then. I just want to make sure

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:20 am

debtsucks wrote:
funny how every other school can get bashed to pieces but as soon as UM is mentioned the white knights come alive


brah, i hate michigan

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby acirilli1722 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:21 am

Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:21 am

paulinaporizkova wrote:
debtsucks wrote:
funny how every other school can get bashed to pieces but as soon as UM is mentioned the white knights come alive


brah, i hate michigan


we are few breh

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Cicero, Fin. III 16 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:22 am

If someone with access to the numbers could PM me, I have a small request.

Thanks

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:22 am

minnbills wrote:
Jaeger wrote:How can Minnesota get a 4 out of 5 assessment score by lawyers/judges and still have the piss poor big law numbers it has? Are all the lawyers assessing public defenders?


MN just doesn't have much of a biglaw market, and not being a t-14 it doesn't have reach into chicago and ny to make up for it.


I'd believe that except Vanderbilt, WUSTL and a few others have better NLJ250 placement and they are not in biglaw markets either.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby lovejopd » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:24 am

JDizzle2015 wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:
RonnyDworkin wrote:Anyone have more detailed data? The raw score data is definitely useful. Any data on medians and the assessment scores?


#1 Yale: 170-177 LSAT, 3.83-3.96 GPA -- 173 and 3.9 medians -- 91.8% employed after 9 months

#2 Stanford: 167-172 LSAT, 3.72-3.93 GPA -- 170 and 3.85 medians -- 97.1% employed after 9 months

#3 Harvard: 171-176 LSAT, 3.78-3.97 GPA -- 173 and 3.89 medians -- 94.6% employed after 9 months

#4 Columbia: 170-175 LSAT, 3.6-3.82 GPA -- 172 and 3.72 medians -- 96.5% employed after 9 months

#5 Chicago: 167-173 LSAT, 3.71-3.94 GPA -- 171 and 3.87 medians -- 97.9% employed after 9 months

#6 NYU: 170-174 LSAT, 3.57-3.85 GPA -- 172 and 3.71 medians -- 96.6% employed after 9 months

#7 Berkeley: 164-169 LSAT, 3.62-3.88 GPA -- 167 and 3.79 medians -- 93.6% employed after 9 months

#7 Penn: 166-171 LSAT, 3.58-3.93 GPA -- 170 and 3.86 medians -- 96% employed after 9 months

#7 Virginia: 165-171 LSAT, 3.49-3.94 GPA -- 170 and 3.86 medians -- 98.1% employed after 9 months

#10 Michigan: 167-170 LSAT, 3.59-3.87 GPA -- 169 and 3.76 medians -- 92.2% employed after 9 months

#11 Duke: 167-171 LSAT, 3.62-3.84 GPA -- 170 and 3.75 medians -- 94.8% employed after 9 months

#12 Northwestern: 165-171 LSAT, 3.35-3.85 GPA -- 170 and 3.8 medians -- 94% employed after 9 months

#13 Georgetown: 167-171 LSAT, 3.44-3.8 GPA -- 170 and 3.71 medians -- 96% employed after 9 months

#14 Cornell: 166-169 LSAT, 3.5-3.77 GPA -- 168 and 3.63 medians -- 96.9% employed after 9 months


Hope this helps

Quoted for future reference.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:24 am

Jaeger wrote:I'd believe that except Vanderbilt, WUSTL and a few others have better NLJ250 placement and they are not in biglaw markets either.


Vanderbilt feeds into multiple markets- I never understood how WUSTL's placement panned out though. Chicago I guess?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby existenz » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:25 am

So much for Sixigan.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby TMC116 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:25 am

debtsucks wrote:
ScrabbleChamp wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


I gotta give you props... You created an account and waited 2 months before trolling... Impressive, but you obviously have some weird problem with Michigan when your first 4 posts serve no purpose other than to attempt to disparage Michigan. Bravo, sir. Incredible patience.



so nlj250 doesnt count then. I just want to make sure


I understand not liking Michigan, i guess. But you're taking this to an all new level.

Did you not get in or something? Why the constant hating?


....U mad bro?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby PinkRevolver » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:26 am

acirilli1722 wrote:Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them



Nova 101
Drexel 119

Sorry to break it to ya

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:27 am

TMC116 wrote:
debtsucks wrote:
ScrabbleChamp wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


I gotta give you props... You created an account and waited 2 months before trolling... Impressive, but you obviously have some weird problem with Michigan when your first 4 posts serve no purpose other than to attempt to disparage Michigan. Bravo, sir. Incredible patience.



so nlj250 doesnt count then. I just want to make sure


I understand not liking Michigan, i guess. But you're taking this to an all new level.

Did you not get in or something? Why the constant hating?

....U mad bro?


bro honestly im kinda man at their shit placement because I did want to go there and still might but nlj250 was a stick in the spokes

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby acirilli1722 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 am

PinkRevolver wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them



Nova 101
Drexel 119

Sorry to break it to ya

yea I saw that wasn't sure if anybody had the quality rankings or employment at 9 months

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby TLS_noobie » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 am

minnbills wrote:
Jaeger wrote:I'd believe that except Vanderbilt, WUSTL and a few others have better NLJ250 placement and they are not in biglaw markets either.


Vanderbilt feeds into multiple markets- I never understood how WUSTL's placement panned out though. Chicago I guess?


Does any of it really matter? Numbers are numbers. The location of the school is no excuse because in the end, if a student wants a biglaw job they shouldn't go to a school that has craptastic numbers --be it in NYC or in north dakota.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 am

Last years data for T15 to compare: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=150329

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 am

minnbills wrote:
Jaeger wrote:I'd believe that except Vanderbilt, WUSTL and a few others have better NLJ250 placement and they are not in biglaw markets either.


Vanderbilt feeds into multiple markets- I never understood how WUSTL's placement panned out though. Chicago I guess?



MN is probably just as far from Chicago as WUSTL.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby TTRansfer » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:29 am

acirilli1722 wrote:Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them


I assume Nova's scandal hurts them worse than "honest placement stats."

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby emptyflare » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:29 am

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:30 am

TLS_noobie wrote:
minnbills wrote:
Jaeger wrote:I'd believe that except Vanderbilt, WUSTL and a few others have better NLJ250 placement and they are not in biglaw markets either.


Vanderbilt feeds into multiple markets- I never understood how WUSTL's placement panned out though. Chicago I guess?


Does any of it really matter? Numbers are numbers. The location of the school is no excuse because in the end, if a student wants a biglaw job they shouldn't go to a school that has craptastic numbers --be it in NYC or in north dakota.



I don't think that's the argument. It's more an explanation of why the numbers are the way they are.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby swtlilsoni » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:30 am

isn't it a REALLY big deal that GULC placed 13? Isn't this the FIRST time they have EVER been anything other than 14?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby lalala21 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 am

can someone post or pm me utah stats? thanks!!

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby BK201 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 am

TTRansfer wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them


I assume Nova's scandal hurts them worse than "honest placement stats."


Didn't their scandal start because they decided to be honest though?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby acirilli1722 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:33 am

BK201 wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Anybody have the stats for Nova and Drexel. I think the honest placement stats hurt both of them


I assume Nova's scandal hurts them worse than "honest placement stats."


Didn't their scandal start because they decided to be honest though?


I think it has forced them to be more honest

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby moneybagsphd » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:33 am

swtlilsoni wrote:isn't it a REALLY big deal that GULC placed 13? Isn't this the FIRST time they have EVER been anything other than 14?

I mean, they still graduate a ridiculously huge class into a saturated market. So not really.




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