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chup
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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby chup » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:07 am

TTRansfer wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:The 50% employment rate of UF is incredible disheartening.

/seriousheat


It at least sounds realistic.

The sad thing is it's almost certainly not.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:08 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:Minnesota:

LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 157-167
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167


Love it

LOL, didn't even notice that. WTF?


Minnesota wins for best LSAT system gameage[/quote]

It's median, not mean.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:08 am

rad lulz wrote:
Big Shrimpin wrote:Dont forget to cop DAT Jos A Bank shwag.

Credited, BROTHER


just lol at non-jos a bank wearers

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby FeelTheHeat » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:08 am

f7 wrote:
chup wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:The 50% employment rate of UF is incredible disheartening.

/seriousheat


It at least sounds realistic.

The sad thing is it's almost certainly not.


:?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby TTRansfer » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:09 am

chup wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
FeelTheHeat wrote:The 50% employment rate of UF is incredible disheartening.

/seriousheat


It at least sounds realistic.

The sad thing is it's almost certainly not.


Was it a 9 month number or at graduation number?

I'd assume a state school would be able to hit ~50% at graduation. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Dany » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:09 am

f7 wrote:
chup wrote:
lawyerwannabe wrote:Ya. So. How is Berkeley not out of the top 10 or even 14? They have tied for the lowest peer review and the lowest medians of any of the schools. Do they inefficiently spend tons of money on each student? With their tuition being the highest of all the schools, and the state of CA in general, it would not be entirely surprising.

Because one of the fucked up things about the ranking is they basically reward inefficiency. High tuition = more money to spend = more money "spent on students." See every Paul Campos screed against USNWR in existence.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Tiago Splitter » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:09 am

Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:

Minnesota wins for best LSAT system gameage


It's median, not mean.


Srs?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Bronck » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:10 am

Dany wrote:
f7 wrote:
chup wrote:
lawyerwannabe wrote:Ya. So. How is Berkeley not out of the top 10 or even 14? They have tied for the lowest peer review and the lowest medians of any of the schools. Do they inefficiently spend tons of money on each student? With their tuition being the highest of all the schools, and the state of CA in general, it would not be entirely surprising.

Because one of the fucked up things about the ranking is they basically reward inefficiency. High tuition = more money to spend = more money "spent on students." See every Paul Campos screed against USNWR in existence.

NEED MOAR PROFESSORS TO TEACH FEELINGS AND THE LAW

One of our spring electives is Emotion, Reason, and Law. :|


:shock:

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:11 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:

Minnesota wins for best LSAT system gameage


It's median, not mean.


Srs?


Yeah, how is it hard to believe that you can have a 75%tile of 167 and a median of 167?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Mike12188 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:11 am

I feel better about picking Georgetown over Cornell now.

until I don't have a job come this fall

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Big Shrimpin » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:11 am

rad lulz wrote:
Big Shrimpin wrote:Dont forget to cop DAT Jos A Bank shwag.

Credited, BROTHER



Awwyeaa DAT preftige. Tbf, schools looking to boost employment stats should just outfit 2L OCI'ers with mont Blancs and jos a bank suits.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Bronck » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:12 am

Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:

Minnesota wins for best LSAT system gameage


It's median, not mean.


Srs?


Yeah, how is it hard to believe that you can have a 75%tile of 167 and a median of 167?


Nobody is saying it's hard to believe. We were just givin kudos to their awesome gaming skillz.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby moneybagsphd » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:13 am

debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Tiago Splitter » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:13 am

Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
Jaeger wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:

Minnesota wins for best LSAT system gameage


It's median, not mean.


Srs?


Yeah, how is it hard to believe that you can have a 75%tile of 167 and a median of 167?


Like I said, best system gameage.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:14 am

How can Minnesota get a 4 out of 5 assessment score by lawyers/judges and still have the piss poor big law numbers it has? Are all the lawyers assessing it public defenders?
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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:14 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Like I said, best system gameage.


I get ya.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby debtsucks » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:15 am

moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


you dont agree? what about its 30% nlj250 placement? that doesnt count?

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:15 am

moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


oh god i miss all this dumbass shit so much sometimes

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:16 am

debtsucks wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


you dont agree? what about its 30% nlj250 placement? that doesnt count?

paulinaporizkova wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


oh god i miss all this dumbass shit so much sometimes

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby lawyerwannabe » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:16 am

paulinaporizkova wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


oh god i miss all this dumbass shit so much sometimes


Ya. But how about T12? Turning the rankings into survivor. Each year, one more school gets voted "off the island."

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:16 am

Jaeger wrote:How can Minnesota get a 4 out of 5 assessment score by lawyers/judges and still have the piss poor big law numbers it has? Are all the lawyers assessing public defenders?


MN just doesn't have much of a biglaw market, and not being a t-14 it doesn't have reach into chicago and ny to make up for it.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby Rawlberto » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:17 am

I went to ASU for UG. It's not a real school.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:17 am

debtsucks wrote:so we all agree mich is in decline? this is a good start for the undeserved loved it gets here


I gotta give you props... You created an account and waited 2 months before trolling... Impressive, but you obviously have some weird problem with Michigan when your first 4 posts serve no purpose other than to attempt to disparage Michigan. Bravo, sir. Incredible patience.

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby lovejopd » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:18 am

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... w-rankings
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... l-rankings

Any Thought?
Interesting: Three #7 and Poor Michigan(#10) and U-Texas(#16)... :lol:

Edited: for a change from 2012 U.S. News ranking!

1. Huge upward trend:
#20-University of Washington(+10)
#24-Emory University, Washington and Lee University (+6)
#26-Arizona State University(+14)
#29-Univeristy of Alabama(+6)

2. Huge downward trend:
#23-Washington University in St. Louis(-5)
#29-U.C. Davis(-6)
#35-College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe)(-8), University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign(-12)
#38-University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill(-8)

#1 Yale University(=)
#2 Stanford University(+1)
#3 Harvard University(-1)
#4 Columbia University(=)
#5 University of Chicago(=)
#6 New York University(=)
#7 University of California--Berkeley(+2)
#7 University of Pennsylvania(=)
#7 University of Virginia(+2)
#10 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor(-3)
#11 Duke University(=)
#12 Northwestern University(=)
#13 Georgetown University(+1)
#14 Cornell University(-1)
#15 University of California--Los Angeles(+1)
#16 University of Texas--Austin(-2)
#16 Vanderbilt University(=)
#18 University of Southern California (Gould)(=)
#19 University of Minnesota--Twin Cities(+1)
#20 George Washington University(=)
#20 University of Washington(+10)
#22 University of Notre Dame(+1)
#23 Washington University in St. Louis(-5)
#24 Emory University(+6)
#24 Washington and Lee University(+6)
#26 Arizona State University (O'Connor)(+14)
#26 Boston University(-4)
#26 Indiana University--Bloomington (Maurer)(-3)
#29 Boston College(-2)
#29 Fordham University(+1)
#29 University of Alabama(+6)
#29 University of California--Davis(-6)
#29 University of Iowa(-2)
#34 University of Georgia(+1)
#35 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe)(-8)
#35 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign(-12)
#35 University of Wisconsin--Madison(=)
#38 University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill(-8)
#39 Brigham Young University (Clark)(+3)
#39 George Mason University(+1)
#39 Ohio State University (Moritz)(-4)
#39 University of Maryland (Carey)(+3)
#43 University of Arizona (Rogers)(-1)
#44 University of California (Hastings)(-2)
#44 University of Colorado--Boulder(+3)
#44 Wake Forest University(-5)
#47 University of Utah (Quinney)(-5)
#48 University of Florida (Levin)(-1)
#49 American University (Washington)(+1)
#49 Pepperdine University(+5)

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Re: 2013 Rankings

Postby shaithe » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:18 am

Could someone post BYU's stats please?




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