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Re: The official rankings release thread

Postby rad lulz » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:08 pm

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Big Shrimpin
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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Big Shrimpin » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:09 pm

Need MOAR data on GW.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby allmodcons » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:09 pm

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby ahnhub » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:09 pm

I think they changed their employment % methodology so that people seeking another degree or not seeking work are now counted in the denominator.

Also, the employment % is skewed by how heavily schools used short-term law-school funded fellowships. I know UVA and Georgetown had 10+% in such fellowships, and Penn and NU had around 3-5%. I think most schools had at least a couple.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby eaper » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:09 pm

Who else is editing all their posts that said "YHS" to "YSH"?

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Gail » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

danquayle wrote:The biggest gripe I have with this ranking is the national versus regional designations. To the extent US News has any credibility, it should be in placing schools into these broadly correct tiers, but there is no way St. John's is placing nationally. Nor is Penn State, no matter the Rick Santorum effect.

I think properly applied, those kinds of labels could be useful. A school like Michigan is legitimately national. A school like Wisconsin is legitimately regional. A school like St. John's is local.


blatant mitt romney trolling

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Re: The official rankings release thread

Postby col.faith » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
col.faith wrote:What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.


BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.


Must be their lack of adequate library space.


That makes sense; it's too important.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby bandwlover » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

Minnesota Law info please

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby mattviphky » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

UIUC, please!!!

Sending negotiation letter tomorrow.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby kroakstool » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

Can I have info on Emory, W&L, and Georgia please?

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby 20130312 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Tiago Splitter » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:10 pm

disco_stu wrote:
Bronck wrote:
thexfactor wrote:need some info on WUSTL


WUSTL

Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 80.7%


Well, that's horrible.


Romo did mention before that WUSTL was one of the few to adopt the new employment reporting USNews is pushing. Might have really cost them in these rankings.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby JusticeHarlan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:11 pm

ahnhub wrote:I think they changed their employment % methodology so that people seeking another degree or not seeking work are now counted in the denominator.

They did this last year. Some dean (I think Emory) blamed their drop on it then.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby danquayle » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:11 pm

Gail wrote:
danquayle wrote:The biggest gripe I have with this ranking is the national versus regional designations. To the extent US News has any credibility, it should be in placing schools into these broadly correct tiers, but there is no way St. John's is placing nationally. Nor is Penn State, no matter the Rick Santorum effect.

I think properly applied, those kinds of labels could be useful. A school like Michigan is legitimately national. A school like Wisconsin is legitimately regional. A school like St. John's is local.


blatant mitt romney trolling


Mitt wrecked Harvard's peer assessment this year.

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Re: The official rankings release thread

Postby TTRansfer » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:13 pm

col.faith wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
TTRansfer wrote:
col.faith wrote:What did UW do to deserve the 10-spot climb? Bribed usnews? With BU,BC,Fordham all clustered around 30, the ranking outside the T14 is becoming more arbitrary every year.


BC and BU seem to be really low for the solid numbers they seem to have for employment.


Must be their lack of adequate library space.


That makes sense; it's too important.


Plus, BU's school is ugly as shit.

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Re: The official rankings release thread

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:14 pm

DaftAndDirect wrote:
Samara wrote:Don't you know? You're not cool unless you're mocking other posters for discussing changes in rankings.


+1 STFU Rad Lulz. Everyone gets it.

There's discussing rankings, and then there's questioning whether they'll have an impact on anything substantive. At all. They won't. And if you think they do you're an idiot.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby JDizzle2015 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:14 pm

Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)

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Bronck
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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Bronck » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:14 pm

Big Shrimpin wrote:Need MOAR data on GW.


GW:
Score 71
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.6
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.43-3.9
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.82
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 161-168
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 94.3%

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby michlaw » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:14 pm

I guess I had better change my name. UVA has the best employment percentage in the legal world? Unlikely.

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby 20130312 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:15 pm

JDizzle2015 wrote:Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)


Because LSN is a non-representative sample.

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Re: The official rankings release thread

Postby TLS_noobie » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:15 pm

TTRansfer wrote:
Plus, BU's school is ugly as shit.


Tim Gunn is now the chief of ranking at USNWR...

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Dany » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:15 pm

JDizzle2015 wrote:Does anyone know why Stanford's medians are different from what LSN would make them seem? (http://stanford.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats/1011/)

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby Bronck » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:15 pm

allmodcons wrote:To those posting the detailed info- thank you! One more request: Seton Hall


Seton Hall:
Score 48
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 2.5
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 2.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.22-3.66
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.50
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 155-161
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 159
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 85.6%

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby teacozy » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:16 pm

W&M please.

Thank you so much for the detailed info!

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Re: Predicting 2013 Rankings

Postby stillwater » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:16 pm

Bronck wrote:
allmodcons wrote:To those posting the detailed info- thank you! One more request: Seton Hall


Seton Hall:
Score 48
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 2.5
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 2.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.22-3.66
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.50
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 155-161
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 159
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 85.6%


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