2013 Rankings Forum

[Richie Tenenbaum]

UT info, many pleases and many thanks.

[ilovesf]

Villanoooooooooooooooooooo

what was its rank last year?

[Comoncents]

I am shocked!

[KingRajesh]

I thought Cornell was a shoo-in for #12. WTF.

[rad lulz]

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[splittinghairs]

I thought Cornell was a shoo-in for #12. WTF.

168 LSAT and 3.6 GPA, thats horrendous, ppl hate the cold i guess

[180asBreath]

I have premium access to USNWR for those interested in how particular schools fared.

Could you do the numbers on the T6, please?

#1 Yale: 170-177 LSAT, 3.83-3.96 GPA -- 173 and 3.9 medians -- 91.8% employed after 9 months

#2 Stanford: 167-172 LSAT, 3.72-3.93 GPA -- 170 and 3.85 medians -- 97.1% employed after 9 months

#3 Harvard: 171-176 LSAT, 3.78-3.97 GPA -- 173 and 3.89 medians -- 94.6% employed after 9 months

#4 Columbia: 170-175 LSAT, 3.6-3.82 GPA -- 172 and 3.72 medians -- 96.5% employed after 9 months

#5 Chicago: 167-173 LSAT, 3.71-3.94 GPA -- 171 and 3.87 medians -- 97.9% employed after 9 months

#6 NYU: 170-174 LSAT, 3.57-3.85 GPA -- 172 and 3.71 medians -- 96.6% employed after 9 months

Thank you! I, for one, welcome our new Stanford overlords, haha.

[Bronck]

UT info, many pleases and many thanks.

Score 77
Peer Assessment 4.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 4.3
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.56-3.8
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.69
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 165-170
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167

[071816]

I'd like to see the detailed info on UCLA through USC just for the hell of it if anyone has it.

[hellothisisme]

I guess people now have their answer about how Illinois' ranking will be affected by the scandal. Dropped 12 spots.

[danquayle]

U Wash higher than WUSTL isn't really that crazy. The midwest legal market is both saturated and still suffering from the recession, while U Washington has home school advantage in a city with one of the strongest economies in the country. I mean who is UW really competing with outside of the California schools and the occassionally T14 drifter?

US News doesn't really measure any of that stuff anything in a meaningful way.

This seems to be closer to the truth. Quite the racket they have going.

Eh, they get the tiers alright, but at this point everyone roughly knows those anyway. If anything, they should just put out rankings less frequently than yearly. Maybe every 5 years to capture any dramatic shifts. Like I'm sure we'll have a greater appreciation of the Illinois scandal fallout, if any, in 5 years.

But you're making less money that way.

[Richie Tenenbaum]

UT info, many pleases and many thanks.

Score 77
Peer Assessment 4.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 4.3
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.56-3.8
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.69
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 165-170
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167

Awesome, thanks.

[ph14]

Wow about Stanford > Harvard now

And how is it that only 91.8% are employed at Yale? Surprising...

They've been trading the #2 spot for over a decade: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... ?f=1&t=213.

[t14fanboy]

does anyone know if the rankings being released effects the rate at which schools send out decisions

WHO CARES DON'T YOU SEE THAT THE RANKING OF A SCHOOL IS PRECISELY CORRELATED TO HOW MANY EMPLOYERS COME TO OCI???

Preach it.

[Tanicius]

ASU... wow.

Illinois... Christ.

[Gail]

wf, uiuc, emory

[checkster]

I feel good about the rankings. I don't care if they matter.

Great to see Mizzou back up, that huge slide was ridiculous.

[banjo]

Cornell should relocate its law school to Manhattan, right next to its medical center on the upper east side. Instant rankings boost.

[rad lulz]

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[Bronck]

UCLA:
Score 78
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 4.0
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 4.1
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.55-3.88
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.78
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 164-169
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 168
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 93.1%

UT:
Score 77
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 4.1
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 4.3
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.56-3.8
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.69
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 165-170
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 89.0%

Vandy:
Score 77
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.9
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 4.2
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.48-3.84
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.73
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 165-170
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 169
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 91.6%

USC:
Score 75
Peer assessment score (out of 5) 3.7
Assessment score by lawyers/judges (out of 5) 3.9
GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.54-3.77
Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.69
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 165-167
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 167
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 91.3%

[Chucky21]

how will this affect Cornell's nyc biglaw placement...?

[Dany]

Villanoooooooooooooooooooo

[bernaldiaz]

Wow about Stanford > Harvard now

And how is it that only 91.8% are employed at Yale? Surprising...

That employment number is low because the people that go to Yale often go on to do other degrees seemingly more often than the other top schools. People pursuing another degree do not count as employed.

[JamMasterJ]

I thought Cornell was a shoo-in for #12. WTF.

well the only job info that actually matters is irrelevant in the USNWR rankings, so their advantage is lost. Their medians are low too, so they have a major uphill battle regardless of how they do in NLJ 250 placement

[Arbiter213]

Cornell should relocate its law school to Manhattan, right next to its medical center on the upper east side.on the sick new tech campus on roosevelt island Instant rankings boost.

We'd be above NYU instantly.