dingbat wrote: lessthanjake wrote:
t14fanboy wrote:What in the world does small school size have to do with low acceptance rate? Shitty schools have high acceptance rates and low yields.
All things being equal, a school will have a lower acceptance rate if it is filling a smaller class. Imagine if Harvard randomly decided to cut their class size in half. They'd have to accept half as many people to fill their class. Do you think they'd get half as many applications too? Of course not. The acceptance rate would just go down.
I just figured it's because students at Columbia and NYU are mostly there because they're gunning for NY Biglaw
I guess I was wrong.
I don't know if this is sarcasm, but you are right, there probably is some element of self-selection determining why Columbia/NYU do worse than Chicago in academia, but I truly think the small class size plays a part.
I love your logic (inference) Unfortunately it doesn't account for the TTTTs that have very small class sizes, or the fact that half the T6 have ginormous classes. Do you think that if Cooleys were to cut their class by 75%, they would suddenly shoot up the rankings?
I can see an argument made the other way, but if a school like Chicago were to gradually increase their class size (over many years) I doubt they'd experience any significant drop, if any.
The things that are helped by small class size (acceptance rate, spending per student, student/faculty ratio) account for only 16.75% of the ranking. If Cooley cut their class by 75%, they'd definitely get higher scores in those things, but the fact that those three things do not comprise a massive part of the ranking would stop them from shooting up the rankings very much; their reputation scores and job numbers would still be bad.
And half the T6 have big classes, but they're ranked highly because of massive reputation and employment scores. They don't do badly in acceptance rate, student/faculty ratio, and spending because they are big schools with a lot of resources that many kids apply to, but that's why I said "all things being equal." A big class size won't make a fantastic school get a low ranking, but it could leave it behind a school of similar quality with a smaller class.
If Chicago increased their class size gradually, I don't think there would be a significant drop. If they were able to hire some more faculty and ramp up their spending alongside the increasing class size, then they'd likely be fine. They'd likely end up with a slightly higher student/faculty ratio and a bit less spending person student. Meanwhile a bigger class WOULD lower their acceptance rate, and I personally think they'd find it hard to keep their LSAT/GPA medians steady with a significantly bigger class, even if it were done gradually. As such, I imagine it might hurt them a little bit (but in the possibly going 5th -> 6th sorta way, not a dramatic way). I do think their academia numbers would start to look significantly worse though.