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jeeptiger09 · Post by **jeeptiger09** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:28 pm

rad lulz wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Specifics on Nova and Drexel?
Still awful choices for those seeking employment. HTH.
Ya go to Barry bro

Lies. Go to Nova.

dodgerboy86 · Post by **dodgerboy86** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:30 pm

R86 wrote:
dodgerboy86 wrote:Does anybody have the LSAT and GPA numbers for UCLA...I'm a 1L, bored out of my mind in a Con Law class and am interested in finding these numbers out...btw, suck it Texas!
Median LSAT score for all program entrants 168
LSAT scores (25th-75th percentile) 164-169

Median undergraduate GPA for all program entrants 3.78
Undergraduate GPA (25th-75th percentile) 3.55-3.88

Awesome; pretty much the exact same as last year... thanks

lrslayer · Post by **lrslayer** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:46 pm

LOL at the email I just got from #101 Pacific McGeorge:

"The March 15 deadline to apply for admission to University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law is only two days away! I hope you'll apply so you don't miss your chance to attend one of the top 100 law schools in the nation, according to U.S. News & World Report."

I guess they didn't get the memo about getting bumped last night!

Real Madrid · Post by **Real Madrid** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:48 pm

JDizzle2015 wrote:
Guchster wrote:
izy223 wrote:
thanks!! is misleading really what it says on their website?
lord have mercy.
lol'd

Also liked UVA's 9% acceptance rate. Looks like their YP/ED reliance has paid dividends.

Lulz, no joke. No surprise that they have the 3rd-lowest 25th GPA among the T14 and the 2nd lowest 25th LSAT. This pretty much corroborates all of the "ED UVA" posts and explains their artificially inflated medians.

The_Guv · Post by **The_Guv** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Stats for Notre Dame, please?

R86 · Post by **R86** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:57 pm

LawIdiot86 · Post by **LawIdiot86** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:24 pm

R86 wrote:
The_Guv wrote:Stats for Notre Dame, please?
#22 University of Notre Dame (Overall Score: 70 out of 100)
Notre Dame, IN
Full-time: $43,335 per year
Enrollment: 563
25-75 LSAT: 162-167
Median LSAT: 166
25-75 GPA: 3.45-3.74
Median GPA: 3.64
Acceptance Rate: 20.9%
Assessment Score: 4.0
Employment @ 9 Months: 91.3%

Stats for GW and American, please?

tranandy · Post by **tranandy** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:06 pm

apollo2015 wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
splitbrain wrote:"Assessment score by lawyers/judges (0.15): About 12 percent of those lawyers and judges surveyed responded."

So, 15% of the score was based on the opinion of 90 people across the country? Cool.
I wonder what the demographics were in terms of who was chosen to be surveyed, and in terms of who chose to respond.

Also keep in mind that low and high scores are thrown out and respondents can leave blank responses if they don't know enough about a school. Blank responses are not counted towards the assessment score. So, in reality, it could be only a few dozen lawyers/judges that make up 15% of the a school's ranking.

acirilli1722 · Post by **acirilli1722** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:39 pm

rad lulz wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Specifics on Nova and Drexel?
Still awful choices for those seeking employment. HTH.
Ya go to Barry bro

Villanova not Nova in Fl

The_Guv · Post by **The_Guv** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:41 pm

R86 wrote:
The_Guv wrote:Stats for Notre Dame, please?
#22 University of Notre Dame (Overall Score: 70 out of 100)
Notre Dame, IN
Full-time: $43,335 per year
Enrollment: 563
25-75 LSAT: 162-167
Median LSAT: 166
25-75 GPA: 3.45-3.74
Median GPA: 3.64
Acceptance Rate: 20.9%
Assessment Score: 4.0
Employment @ 9 Months: 91.3%

Appreciated!

msblaw89 · Post by **msblaw89** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:49 pm

Chucky21 wrote:how will this affect Cornell's nyc biglaw placement...?

You should be more concerned with the "Law Firm" rankings of schools rather than the USnews. Last year Cornell got a 4.5/5 tying Duke, NW, and Chicago for #8...I think the new law firm rankings come out this month as well

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:50 pm

acirilli1722 wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
acirilli1722 wrote:Specifics on Nova and Drexel?
Still awful choices for those seeking employment. HTH.
Ya go to Barry bro
Villanova not Nova in Fl

InGoodFaith wrote: Still awful choices for those seeking employment. HTH.

.

Bronck · Post by **Bronck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:19 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
Chucky21 wrote:how will this affect Cornell's nyc biglaw placement...?
You should be more concerned with the "Law Firm" rankings of schools rather than the USnews. Last year Cornell got a 4.5/5 tying Duke, NW, and Chicago for #8...I think the new law firm rankings come out this month as well

Lolololol no.

emkay625 · Post by **emkay625** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:21 pm

It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:25 pm

Not really, because UT was really always kind of in that range. Everyone I talked to ultimately told me that, even for Texas, UT was better than the lower T-14, but that, at least for big law, MVP are a better bet.

Oh, huge caveat: even cost with scholarships. That's actually another thing that worries me about UT. The instate tuition has been shooting up like crazy, and I don't trust it to stay low, so I wouldn't want to go without a scholarship.

Dany · Post by **Dany** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:25 pm

emkay625 wrote:It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?

Why would you even ask this.

071816 · Post by **071816** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:26 pm

emkay625 wrote:It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?

It shouldn't because UT has always been a UCLA/Vandy/USC peer and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

tennisking88 · Post by **tennisking88** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:27 pm

chimp wrote:
emkay625 wrote:It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?
It shouldn't because UT has always been a UCLA/Vandy/USC peer and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

The only thing holding UT back is its underpaid faculty

bernaldiaz · Post by **bernaldiaz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:28 pm

So overall did we see medians drop as expected (given the 15% or so drop in test takers/ applicants)?

Are these even the new medians, though? I mean the cycle isn't over yet, so are these the medians from last year, or just what they have reported thus far?

071816 · Post by **071816** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:31 pm

tennisking88 wrote:
chimp wrote:
emkay625 wrote:It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?
It shouldn't because UT has always been a UCLA/Vandy/USC peer and probably will be for the foreseeable future.
The only thing holding UT back is its underpaid faculty

Holding it back from what?

minnbills · Post by **minnbills** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:32 pm

chimp wrote:
Holding it back from what?

haha wouldn't a higher expenditure/student figure raise their ranking?

071816 · Post by **071816** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:36 pm

minnbills wrote:
chimp wrote:
Holding it back from what?
haha wouldn't a higher expenditure/student figure raise their ranking?

Maybe, but it wouldn't make any meaningful difference in much else. UT will still be a UCLA/Vandy/USC peer, which was my original point.

moneybagsphd · Post by **moneybagsphd** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:36 pm

chimp wrote:
emkay625 wrote:It does not impact my decision, but does this give anyone considering UT pause?
It shouldn't because UT has always been a UCLA/Vandy/USC peer and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

superbloom · Post by **superbloom** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:42 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:So overall did we see medians drop as expected (given the 15% or so drop in test takers/ applicants)?

Are these even the new medians, though? I mean the cycle isn't over yet, so are these the medians from last year, or just what they have reported thus far?

Numbers are based on last cycle.

tennisking88 · Post by **tennisking88** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:42 pm

chimp wrote:
tennisking88 wrote:
The only thing holding UT back is its underpaid faculty
Holding it back from what?

Easy, guys, it was a joke http://abovethelaw.com/2011/05/your-tui ... d-at-work/

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