Columbia vs. NYU...Again

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Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby georgeconstanza » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:33 pm

I appreciate this is a rather cliche question, but there doesn't appear to be a very comprehensive/recent post along these lines. If I'm wrong, forgive me. In any event, how would people evaluate the differences between these two schools? They are obviously both very good and well reputed, but I am having trouble finding ways to differentiate them besides #4 and #6, which doesn't tell you a whole lot. Additionally, NYU's location is definitely better (in my opinion, at least). But that's really all I got. Thoughts?

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby handsonthewheel » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:37 pm

Columbia is ivy, which doesn't matter, but that's still cool.

Go to Columbia because it's Columbia. If you have an overriding reason to do otherwise, then do that.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby johansantana21 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:45 pm

Columbia

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby 062914123 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:47 pm

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby redsoxfan2495 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:50 pm

They're essentially peer schools, and there is no objectively wrong choice. Columbia has the better name and some argue that Columbia places better outside of NYC. NYU probably has a better PI support system. In the end the differences are minor enough that you should probably just go to the ASW's and pick the school where you feel more comfortable. (Take the $$$ they throw at you into account of course.)

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby georgeconstanza » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:53 pm

bee wrote:Do you have $ from one, both, or either?

Sticker at each, which is...fine.

Setting aside quality, is there a difference in lifestyle? Culture?

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby keg411 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:54 pm

georgeconstanza wrote:
bee wrote:Do you have $ from one, both, or either?

Sticker at each, which is...fine.

Setting aside quality, is there a difference in lifestyle? Culture?


Just go visit.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby 062914123 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:56 pm

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby redsoxfan2495 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:58 pm

georgeconstanza wrote:Setting aside quality, is there a difference in lifestyle? Culture?
I can really only speak for CLS. The culture is generally pretty laid back and noncompetitive (really). The neighborhood is very quiet and mostly dominated by the university. If you're looking to be in the heart of NYC at all times, you probably want NYU. That said, CLS is a short subway/cab ride from anywhere in the city.

The best thing you can do is visit both schools and see for yourself.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Tadatsune » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:02 pm

1) Go to ASD - find out which school you like better - if the difference is significant, you have your answer
2) Find out which school will give you more money - if the difference is significant, you have your answer
3) Get in to Harvard so that you don't have to make this decision

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Guchster » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 pm

georgeconstanza wrote:I appreciate this is a rather cliche question, but there doesn't appear to be a very comprehensive/recent post along these lines. If I'm wrong, forgive me. In any event, how would people evaluate the differences between these two schools? They are obviously both very good and well reputed, but I am having trouble finding ways to differentiate them besides #4 and #6, which doesn't tell you a whole lot. Additionally, NYU's location is definitely better (in my opinion, at least). But that's really all I got. Thoughts?


wut?

are you fucking kidding me:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174017

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=153412

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=169203

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=162295

Tons of moar thread if you would take the time to specify what you actually want to do, and if you don't know, there are a million more threads besides these that can help with that too.

Use these threads to gain some ground info then come back with a clarifying question (or go poast in the 1L CLS or NYU Taking Questions thread)

That, or don't lie/whine and say "there aren't any thread, recently." You don't need them to be recent within the last month. NYU/CLS don't change that much over a year or two.

Protip:
Step 1: Click 'Search Forum'
Step 2: Enter NYU v. CLS or CLS v. NYU or Columbia v. NYU or NYU v. Columbia
Step 3: Profit
Step 4: Return with good questions.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:31 pm

I beg to differ, there is a lot left to be said on this topic.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby FryBreadPower » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:33 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:I beg to differ, there is a lot left to be said on this topic.


Are you sure? I don't think any other topic besides HLS v. SLS has been discussed at greater lengths. Any other talking points that haven't already been addressed can essentially be boiled down into personal preference.

OP, visit both and go from there. That will probably lead you to your decision.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Guchster » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:34 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:I beg to differ, there is a lot left to be said on this topic.


lol, on the other hand, this thread could turn into viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174017 in which case I'd be very interested in contributing my worthless insights.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby banjo » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:43 pm

An underrated search method is just to google site:top-law-schools.com columbia nyu

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby handsonthewheel » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 pm

Lets be real here, if the cost is roughly the same, it's a question of preference. The offerings, unless you just HAVE to have a certain experience that you absolutely cannot create at one of the schools (which I doubt is anything, you can always do an externship or something), are going to be pretty much the same.

Even the "culture" is going to be the same. Some may argue otherwise, but the culture is largely a function of your attitude, where you select to spend your time and the people you befriend and take on as enemies.

Go to the school you want to for whatever reason it is, but don't think it's anything more than subjective. These are two incredible law schools and any differences are negligible in the objective sense.

For me, I'd choose Columbia because it is ivy and is ranked higher, and I admit it's a hollow and useless designation for what school to attend. If I wanted to live in another area, I'd do that and commute some. Just because your school is in one place doesn't mean you'll spend all of your time there unless you choose to. I just think I'd like to tell myself I go to Columbia Law rather than NYU Law (and because people will assume I didn't get into Columbia if I go to NYU). Again, arbitrary and hollow, but I think that's basically the type of reason it comes down to.

This board, however, will have long debates about minutiae. Take your pick.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby timbs4339 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:06 pm

handsonthewheel wrote:Even the "culture" is going to be the same. Some may argue otherwise, but the culture is largely a function of your attitude, where you select to spend your time and the people you befriend and take on as enemies.


CR. Both schools pick from the same group of overachievers. Both schools place overwhelmingly into biglaw. Both schools have renowned professors in major areas of the law. Both schools have about 400 students per class and there are going to be many different personalities represented within the class.

The differences between the two schools would only come into play for me if the COA from each school was equal. Even then it's mostly a Morningside Heights vs. Greenwich Village distinction. Also, if you have a very specific career path planned you school obviously go to the school that would help you the most in preparing for that path.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Guchster » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:19 pm

HTH if you pick CLS, you're a fucking idiot. Read about it here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=99463

While NYU is a decent state school, there are tons of options beyond these two choices here in NYC. You're going into tons of debt. Be careful b4 you throw your life away!

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Tadatsune » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:28 pm

and take on as enemies


Uh... Should I expect to be "taking on enemies" during my stay at law school?

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby handsonthewheel » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:13 am

Tadatsune wrote:
and take on as enemies


Uh... Should I expect to be "taking on enemies" during my stay at law school?


You'll understand what I mean when the time comes.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby alex.feuerman » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:55 pm

georgeconstanza wrote:
bee wrote:Do you have $ from one, both, or either?

Sticker at each, which is...fine.

Setting aside quality, is there a difference in lifestyle? Culture?


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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby Swimp » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:19 pm

alex.feuerman wrote:I used to live in Nolita relatively near NYU. EVERYTHING is there. The hottest bars, clubs, restaurants, vintage stores, concert venues, espresso shops, like, EVERYTHING EVERYTHING is there. Is it gorgeous and beautiful and vibrant and full of people and life and laughter always.

Columbia is in Harlem, hope you like fast food and being mugged.

That said, even though I live in NYC I still don't know whether I would choose NYU or Columbia :(


Things wrong with this post:
1) Sincere use of the term "Nolita."

2) "hottest...clubs"

3) Suggestion that Harlem has a higher rate of petty crime than the W Village when, in fact, the opposite is true.

4) This thread is from February.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby kaiser » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:22 pm

Seriously, OP, just use the search function since every possible difference imaginable has already been discussed 1000 times over.
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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby moonman157 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:05 pm

It seems to me that if both are at sticker, than CLS is the clear choice. But NYU seems a lot more generous with merit-based aid, so if NYU offered $30K or more, I would seriously consider it over CLS.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU...Again

Postby kaiser » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:11 pm

Just realized this thread is from last Feb. I pity the fool who brings up dead old threads




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