T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

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T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Smumps » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:37 am

I've always wondered what a "layman ranking" of the T14 would look like. We're trying to impress your average Joe (or girl at the bar).

USNWR T14
1. YALE
2. HARVARD
3. STANFORD
4. COLUMBIA
5. CHICAGO
6. NYU
7. PENN
7. MICHIGAN
9. BOALT
9. VIRGINIA
11. DUKE
12. NU
13. CORNELL
14. GULC

Layman T14 (best guess)
1. HARVARD
2. STANFORD
3. YALE
4. COLUMBIA
5. CORNELL
6. GULC
7. DUKE
8. NYU
9. NU
10. BOALT
11. CHICAGO
12. PENN
13. VIRGINIA
14. MICHIGAN

What do you think? Maybe I give Stanford too much love, as a west coaster. That sure impresses me!

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby bernaldiaz » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:39 am

Cornell is way too high I think. As an Easter coaster, I'd swap Yale and Stanford but agree Harvard is obviously 1. I'd also move Penn way up.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Smumps » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:40 am

bernaldiaz wrote:Cornell is way too high I think. As an Easter coaster, I'd swap Yale and Stanford but agree Harvard is obviously 1. I'd also move Penn way up.


Really? Interesting. For some reason people are always "Ooooh" when I mention Cornell. Half the people ask me if Penn = Penn State. That can't be good.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby bobbyh1919 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:42 am

Not sure why I'm even answering this, but I think Yale has to be in the top 2 for starters. Also, Penn would definitely go higher because it's an Ivy.

And I could be way off on this living on the east coast, but I feel like Boalt has to be further down.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby johansantana21 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:43 am

PENN, GULC need to be higher than Cornell.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby whitman » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:44 am

really? It's that time of the month again?

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Smumps » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:48 am

I'm bored. Forgive me.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby mattviphky » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:08 am

Columbia? No, that is definitely behind UT.

actually, just replace Columbia with Michigan on your list.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby apollo2015 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:07 am

I think the layman top 3 have to be Harvard, Yale, and the world renowned Princeton Law School.

Would anyone know what a Boalt is?

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:15 am

Boalt sounds laycool if you say Berkeley.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Detrox » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:53 am

Would definitely kick NYU down to the bottom 12-14 for layman. I say this as an self-pitying NYU student who thirsts for the Prestige.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby poe » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:57 am

Tom Joad wrote:Boalt sounds laycool if you say Berkeley.


That's probably the exact reason they officially rebranded the school as Berkeley Law a few years ago. I don't know why TLS insists on still referring to it as Boalt.

In any case, for the west coast, Berkeley would be much higher on the list. Similarly, in the South, I'm sure that Duke and UVA would go up. Really, any list of this sort would vary by region and is therefore pretty pointless (not to mention that it's a debate that has been done to death here, and usually just ends up running around in circles for a few dozen pages).

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Postby 062914123 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:15 am

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Yeshia90 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:22 am

I'm from New York, and people still think it's weird that I'm passing up Duke and GULC for NYU.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby SehMeSerrious » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:06 am

apollo2015 wrote:I think the layman top 3 have to be Harvard, Yale, and the world renowned Princeton Law School.

Would anyone know what a Boalt is?

Dude everyone knows Berkeley. It should be higher on that list.

Also, this thread may start turning into a regional fight once it reaches a good balance.

Also, +1 to whoever said Princeton. That would sound cool to someone who didn't know about law schools.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby IAFG » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:08 am

Someone should count the number of times this thread gets started so we can celebrate the next 10k milestone.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Grizz » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:39 am

Greetings brother,

Great thread brother, I predict this will add new, insightful knowledge to the community as a whole and contribute to the culture of a relentless pursuit of knowledge fostered on TLS.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Jaeger » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:43 am

Grizz wrote:Greetings brother,

Great thread brother, I predict this will add new, insightful knowledge to the community as a whole and contribute to the culture of a relentless pursuit of knowledge fostered on TLS.



Just like this post.


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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby dingbat » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:59 am

I grew up in Europe, which meant not getting the same kind of awareness of the top schools.
At the time, I, and most of my friends, would probably have ranked them:

1: Harvard
2: Yale
3: Columbia
4: Berkeley
5: Cornell
5: Georgetown
5: Duke
8: Stanford
8: NYU
10: Penn (although I wouldn't have known the difference between UPenn and Penn State)
UVA, Michigan, Chicago, NU wouldn't have ranked at all

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:16 am

Notre Dame should be ranked ahead of NYU, as is evidenced by one of my top 3 favorite films, iforgethetitlebutithaskatehudsonandthatchickfromthepolygamyshow. Kate Hudson's character paraded around an acceptance to ND Law that she never took up while silly polygamist girl cowers around because she only got in to NYU (the implication being that she was rejected from ND). BUT WHO GETS THE GUY? ikr.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby Nobody » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:52 am

I think Georgetown wins the prize for biggest gap between lay prestige/law student disdain. It was actually my first acceptance, and every new one basically gets the response of "well didn't you get into Georgetown?"

I feel like lay prestige is basically just transference of undergrad prestige, which is why Cornell has to come in second to Georgetown. Anyone who graduated high school has to know that Cornell is the ivy you go to if you get rejected from all the rest.

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby mattviphky » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:56 am

[quote="descartesb4thehorse"]Notre Dame should be ranked ahead of NYUquote]

It's not? 8)

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby pupperoni » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:45 pm

wow... not this thread again...

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Re: T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT)

Postby smelltheglove » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:48 pm

Laypeople might think Princeton should be highly ranked.




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