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2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby paradox » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:37 pm

Administrator note: 2013 rankings have been released. See: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=178748

Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby AriGoldButNicer » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:01 pm

paradox wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.

It doesn't really matter. It's top 14, top 25, then tiers. No one cares if Georgetown becomes 13 and if Cardozo becomes 60. It doesn't matter.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Doorkeeper » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:04 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:
paradox wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.

It doesn't really matter. It's 1st, top 3, top 6, top 10, top 14, top 25, then tiers. No one cares if Georgetown becomes 13 and if Cardozo becomes 60. It doesn't matter.


Fixed for elitist's sake.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:05 pm

paradox wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.


Usually mid-March.

I think this site tracks three years...

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby johansantana21 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:07 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
paradox wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.

It doesn't really matter. It's 1st, top 3, top 6, top 10, top 13, top 14, top 17 then tiers. No one cares if Georgetown becomes 13 and if Cardozo becomes 60. It doesn't matter.


Fixed for elitist's sake.


FTFY

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Errzii » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:22 pm

I hope this being in the "Choosing a Law School" forum doesn't mean there are actually people waiting for the new rankings so they can use it to decide where to attend..

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Jaeger » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:31 pm

Agreed.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Nobody » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:57 pm

johansantana21 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
paradox wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Does anyone know when the 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings will be released?

2. Is there a site that tracks how the various law schools have shifted in the US News rankings over the past few years? I recall that there was such a site for undergrad school rankings.

Thanks.

It doesn't really matter. It's 1st, top 3, top 6, top 10, top 13, top 14, top 17 then tiers. No one cares if Georgetown becomes 13 and if Cardozo becomes 60. It doesn't matter.


Fixed for elitist's sake.


FTFY


What the hell is top 17? Is this like UCLA trying to pretend it's special?

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Grizz » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:02 pm

UCLA/Vandy/Tex traditionally have big firm and clerkship placement noticeably better than Woostle/GW/BC/BU etc.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby barneytrouble » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:34 pm

It should probably be HYS/T14/UCLA Vandy UT BC BU/Doesn't matter.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby paradox » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:57 pm

FWIW:

Link for USNWR law schools ranked top 25 for years 1987 through 2003
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=213


Link for USNWR law schools ranked #18 through #50 for years 1997 through 2010
http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2010/12 ... -2010.html

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby bogart » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:00 am

y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby mrtoren » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:06 pm

When is the Class of 2011's employment data released? We're just about at the nine month mark.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Grizz » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:09 pm

bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby 20130312 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:10 pm

mrtoren wrote:When is the Class of 2011's employment data released? We're just about at the nine month mark.


Well, considering they have to collect the data AFTER the 9 month mark, I'd say we have another couple of months to wait.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby mrtoren » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:28 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
mrtoren wrote:When is the Class of 2011's employment data released? We're just about at the nine month mark.


Well, considering they have to collect the data AFTER the 9 month mark, I'd say we have another couple of months to wait.

Your wisdom is all too inspiring.

I can't imagine it would take them long to compile it.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby bogart » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:32 pm

Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby 20130312 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:35 pm

bogart wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?


Oh it's about to go down.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby bigeast03 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:41 pm

bogart wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?


I definitely think you're onto something...

While it may be true that picking a school in your city makes sense after a certain point, there is certainly a noticeable difference in BigLaw placement between 18 (~29%) and 42 (~11%). Even if you weren't completely off base with his school year, it doesn't take a law student to look at numbers.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby lawyerwannabe » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:43 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
bogart wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?


Oh it's about to go down.

Image


Ok. I laughed pretty hard at this post. LOL. I am sleep deprived though so it could just be that.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby goldeneye » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:56 pm

What are the 'tiers' after top 25? Like 26-100 is Tier 1? Always wondered this.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby 20130312 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:57 pm

goldeneye wrote:What are the 'tiers' after top 25? Like 26-100 is Tier 1? Always wondered this.


Well, tier 1 is the top 50 schools (not sure why you designated t25 as that doesn't really mean anything). Tier 2 is 51-100, and tiers 3 and 4 fall after that.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:00 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
goldeneye wrote:What are the 'tiers' after top 25? Like 26-100 is Tier 1? Always wondered this.


Well, tier 1 is the top 50 schools (not sure why you designated t25 as that doesn't really mean anything). Tier 2 is 51-100, and tiers 3 and 4 fall after that.

Last year USNWR changed their tiers, so that 1-100 are Tier 1 and 101-200+ are Tier 2, and all schools get numbered ranks instead of just 1-100, but this is clearly retarded, so we ignore it.

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Grizz » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:10 pm

bogart wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?

Yeah, so what?

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Re: 2013 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Rawlberto » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:10 pm

bogart wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bogart wrote:y > h/s > t14 > best school in city where you want to practice. i.e. washington over vandy for seattle, etc..usnews changes school order periodically to validate its existence. Bottom line, your potential oci interviewer is not going to split hairs between the #18 ranked school and #42.

This is stupid.


Nope...its right. Let me guess, 0L?


He could have hypothetically never heard of law school and your assertion would still be stupid.




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