uci2013 wrote:dingbat wrote:I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, unless you plan on staying in California, you really should not go to UCI.
Currently, UCI is not ABA approved, which means that you cannot take the bar in any state other than California.
However, that is not a serious concern, it is highly likely that UCI will be ABA approved in 2014 (the earliest they will be able to get full accreditation). But, do you want to bet your future on this?
The more important concern is that biglaw is unlikely to hire from UCI. Firstly, UCI Law does not have any alumni, so you can't rely on the alumni network. Secondly, Biglaw has never hired from UCI Law, (obviously, as it's a new school). That means it's going to be very difficult to get into biglaw from UCI.
Outside of the T14, biglaw does hire from other schools, but it's already a lot harder - you've got to be in the top 10% if you're from schools in the top 50.
Biglaw does not hire from no-name schools.
Outside of California no one has ever heard of UCI, so not only will you need to prove that you're a good candidate, you'll also need to prove that UCI is a real law school.
I don't want to trash UCI. I seriously considered it. It is the most promising new law school in a long time. However, it is untested. UCI itself has a reasonable reputation in southern california, which might be enough for a job (though, probably not with biglaw), but outside the state, you can forget about finding anything.
UCI 2L here. Just want to correct some misinformation
1. Regarding the bar in other states, UCI has received provisional accreditation, which means you can sit for bars in other states, full accreditation is not needed. We are also eligible for government internships and programs that require attendance at an ABA accredited school. The risk is the tiny possibility we do not receive full accreditation, but that risk is so tiny I don't think it is worth much if any weight when factoring into a decision.
2. Regarding biglaw - First as of next year we will have an alumni network. A small one, but it will exist. I've also found UCI grads who went to other law schools and are now practicing law to be very helpful and open and they serve as an alumni network as well. Second, as already acknowledged, a fair number of 3Ls received offers in big law after their SAs last summer, and I assume most of the 2Ls with SAs will receive offers as well. We have students with offers outside CA as 3Ls, and we have 2Ls who will be SA'ing outside CA as well. And oddly enough, perhaps because my resume didn't show much to demonstrate So Cal ties, I received a number of interviews last year outside of CA (NY and DC were where I applied) and I accepted an offer in NYC last summer as a 1L. Practitioners I met had heard of our school - Dean Chemerinsky's name in particular, helps with that as I would get "that's the school with Erwin Chemerinsky" or something to that effect a fair amount.
For me money did play a role in my picking UCI over other schools, and as the class of 2013, there was even more risk. I do not regret my decision at all and am happy that I will graduate with significantly lower debt. Everyone has to make their own decisions, but I personally would choose a full ride at UCI over pretty much everything at sticker except HYS, although CNC would be tough to turn down, the cost of living in NYC in particular, in addition to the debt means I would probably take Irvine over those schools at sticker, but for CNC I would have to think about it carefully too (that wasn't a choice I had to make). BUT everyone has their own priorities and I could understand if you wanted to enter academia for example, picking any of the T10 at sticker over UCI.
With some money at a T14 it really comes down to personal priorities and preferences, and I would definitely visit the schools and talk to as many students as possible before making a decision.
Could you tell me about UCIs grading curve?