Flappy Scribbleneck wrote:BruceWayne - I get it, you used hyperbole when you said "skyhigh". I appreciate you coming down from Mount Olympus to talk to those of us who may be considering a school below the T14. I also understand that from your lofty position that it may be difficult to understand how the unwashed masses get by on a daily basis. I recognize that I am very lucky to have your attention, so please, let me take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity and ask a couple of questions. Is it possible that Richmond Biglaw and UVA have a relationship similar to the one I have heard about Philly Biglaw and Penn: where the biglaw houses actually avoid the local T14 or at least view students from the T14 with suspicion because students from the local T14 view the home market as a backwater and have their sights set on NYC/DC? Is it also possible that maybe, just maybe, once in awhile someone from a T30 with somewhere between just "skyhigh" grades and stratopheric grades outperforms a student from a T14 because of superior networking, hustle, luck, etc? I don't want you to think I believe that I can network, hustle or luck my way to a biglaw job. I am well aware that I am not a unique snowflake. My only goal is to better understand the Virginia Legal Market because I once had a dream to be a lawyer in Virgina. Even if it was just defending drunk driving tickets in Virgina Beach. Please excuse my ignorance in advance. Far be it from me to wonder at the answers to these questions. Maybe you can shine the golden glow of enlightenment on these issues and help a poor looser understand.
You're missing the point because you are very angry at the idea that it's not easy to get a biglaw job right now; I understand that everyone is. You also believe, because you read this website, that anyone "worth their salt" or "smart" can achieve top 30 percent. That it's not big deal. That is clouding your judgment, and that tends to happen to a lot of people when they realize just how bad the economy is. But if you read my post, one of the things that I said is that what I was saying about grades applied to ALL schools in Virginia---including UVA. Just that at UVA they aren't quite as bad. I quickly pointed out that it is hard to get a firm job in Richmond even from UVA--hell I told you that many people were rejected at the preselect stage (including myself). Do you realize what that means? It means that they were rejected based on grades and almost nothing else.
They were not even given a chance
interview well etc. What's worse about your response is that I specified that the grades comment applied to big firm jobs only.
Of course you don't need sky high grades from a school like Washington and Lee or William and Mary to get a good legal job in Richmond. That's absurd. But because you are irritated at the idea that it's hard to get a big firm job in Richmond you got agitated and started bursting out with hyperbole about how I'm saying "no one" from "lowly Washington and Lee who isn't top 1/3" can get a legal job. I'm sorry you don't like to hear about what's going on out there in the hiring world but that's just the way it is. I do see now why a lot of people don't like 0L's posting employment comments. Many of you are, understandably, ignorant of the hiring setup right now, but when you hear the truth you start backlashing when it turns out that the picture isn't rosy.
And FYI no Richmond firms do not view UVA grads with suspicion for wanting to work in Richmond. Firms are aware that the economy is bad, and that MANY
UVA grads would jump
at the opportunity to work for six figures in a low cost of living city like Richmond. They have their pick of students in this economy. Sorry but things are bad.